Monday, 19th February 2018

Chicago Outfit Boss John “No Nose” DiFronzo Ordered Rudy Fratto And Others To Murder Teamster Official Senese

Posted on 08. Apr, 2010 by in Organized Crime

When I was a little kid, my dad used to tell me about a friend of his that smoked one carton of cigarettes a day. This person was a fellow by the name of Dominic Senese. Like my father, Dominic was the secretary-treasurer of a Chicago based local for the Teamsters. In fact, the interests of Dominic’s local (#703) and my father’s local (#738) were intertwined at several major food companies located in Chicago. Dominic’s local represented produce employees and my father’s local represented warehousemen.

Sadly, my father’s local (#738) no longer exists because of the absentmindedness of its former mastermind, Albert Massey, who allegedly caused the misappropriation of funds approximately five years ago. Unbelievably, the misappropriation of said funds is not the entire reason for the demise of Local 738. My foolish brother, Armando, Jr., was offered the position of secretary-treasurer in order to save the local from going in to receivership. However, my brother was persuaded by Massey to pass on accepting the offer. Instead my brother joined him in a federal lawsuit attempting to win back the local. The lawsuit failed and both Massey and my brother lost their union positions.

But I would like to get back to Dominic Senese.

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  • Newton


    “made” guys carry out hits If these guys get pinched, they can take down a good portion of the organization. I was thinking about this throughout the Family Secrets Trial. Why doesn’t the mob just delegate the heavy stuff to associates or non-Italian organizations, through a series of buffers, etc??

  • Newton

    Sorry, that first sentence should read, “WHY does the Outfit have “made” guys carry out hits If these guys get pinched, they can take down a good portion of the organization?”

    • The Don

      Because they need to use absolutely dependable trustwothy men. Murder is considered ‘Heavy Work’. However, as Joe Fosco pointed out, there are some hitters that are non made guys. Giancana’s hitters were strong made guys who reported directly to him.

  • swan man

    I was reading that when Senese was out and about after ‘recovering’ from the shooting, that he looked like the invisible man for the rest of his life because his face was always bandaged!

  • kleenex

    Joe, you are spelling Carlisi wrong. (There is no “e” at the end.)

    How much do you know about Carlisi, anyway? He’s hardly ever mentioned, and I remember one former G-man saying that when Carlisi became boss it was a very sad day for the Outfit.

    He remembered looking right passed Carlisi for years, and then before you know it, he was boss!

  • Pietro Di Alberto

    I am interested in Armando, Jr. What can you tell us about him? Do you think he could be one of the people responsible for the off base comments and some of the comedy in your threads?

    You said that you have another brother. What’s his name? I’m curious because a long time ago I met a Nick Fosco who is probably around 30-32 years old now. Thanks for your time.

  • Joseph Fosco

    Dear Kleenex,

    Thank you for the correction on the spelling of the name Carlisi.

  • Joseph Fosco

    Dear Newton,

    There are a number of non ‘made’ members that are hit men.

    • The Don

      In the family secrets trial, one of them was Frank ‘The German’

  • Joseph Fosco

    Dear Pietro,

    You want to know about Armando, Jr? Okay, he is morbidly obese – unfortunately that is the most significant thing that I can say about him. Armando, Jr, is going to be 65-years old this September.

    I have two other brothers, however, for security reasons I would rather not talk about them in detail.

    I do not have a brother named Nick.

  • Pietro Di Alberto

    65-years old and morbidly-obese. That reflects poorly on a person’s character.

    Is he a Fosco, or is he from another marriage or something? Do you have siblings or any family at all who you are close with, or is it all a big mess? Everyone needs family!

  • six

    Dear Joe,

    I must admit that this was one of your better articles that I have read in a while. Short and sweet. I have a questions if you don’t mind. was Dominic Senese a outfit guy or a law biding citizen? Thank you.

  • Joseph Fosco

    Dear Pietro,

    The same father, Armando, Sr, aka “Mondo”, relates us four Fosco brothers (including the morbidly obese one and me). The two oldest have a different mother than the two youngest. I am the oldest of the two youngest. The oldest will be 65-years old this September and the youngest will be 36-years old later this year.

    I do have a family, thank you.





  • quickie dickie

    was that picture of senese taken before or after he was shot in the face?

  • Joseph Fosco

    Dear Six,

    Good question. I do not know off hand if Dominic was ‘made’. If I had to guess, I would say yes. He was definitely a serious player in the Outfit. His ties with Hoffa (the old man) were strong. In addition, he was related to Anthony “Joe B” Accardo, thru marriage, which is why I was shocked that he was targeted in an Outfit hit. The botched hit took place 4-years prior to Joe B’s death.

  • Joseph Fosco

    Dear Quickie,

    The photo of Senese was taken at a party in 1982. He was shot 6-years later.

  • Joseph Fosco

    In the photo above his right shoulder, you will catch a glimpse of Marshal Caifano’s nephew Rich Caifano. Rich is a legitimate businessperson and a prestigious attorney.

  • MurcialagO

    Tony Hatch in my eyes was a major piece of shit, met him a few times years ago at a limo co in Brookfield he owned I was actually there and witnessed when he kicked one of the Fecoratta bros in the ass, more a sign of disrespect then anything. The younger Fecoratta was beside himself and prob could have killed him right then and there if it wasnt for a handfull of witnesses. This was about a year and a half before someone chased him into a fast food joint and shot and killed him in broad daylight. When I first met him even at my young age(early twentys) I thought to myself how is a guy like this still alive, so it wasnt a big surprise when I heard of his slaying. Old man Tony I thought was a stand up guy and never understood his disapearance and most likely murder. His boss Sam was in jail and later died in prison, little Tony was gone and I believe most of his original crew was either dead or in prison. I dont get the logic behind this. Was somebody trying to make a point? Joe have you ever heard this story?

  • Joseph Fosco

    Dear Murcialag,

    You must be referring to Dino Fecoratta – Big John’s son.

    If you are suggesting that Dino (or any of the brothers) shot the Hatch, I believe that is not even close.

    I believe whomever had the Hatch murdered had it done because he refused to take orders from new regimes.

  • Short Fella

    It seems like the outfit used to wack people quite a bit during the eighties all the way up until the early nineties. Then when Ronald Jarret got clipped in 1999, it had been the first hit for like 7 years or so. Since then, hits are very few and far between.
    In your opinion, why did the hits suddenly stop happening? I’m assuming that there must be a reason since I don’t believe the gangsters had any sudden changes of heart.

  • Netflicks

    Dear Harlem Playboy,

    Thank you for your participation. So you know, we are waiting for you to return that Donnie Brasco DVD.

  • Joseph Fosco

    Dear Short,

    I have no opinion on the matter.

  • Logic


    You seen this latest sting on Inendino? You had asked whether he was still alive…funny to watch him run from cameras:

  • Mr. Jingledonkey

    Ha ha…Is he still alive. Ha ha. That MOTHER!

  • Norman

    Joe, are you aware of the book by ex-cop and mob associate, Michael Corbitt? I ask because besides KTF, that’s the only other source I know of that has discussed the Bastones, Hy Larner, and Charlie Nicosia. Do you consider it to be credible?

  • Norman

    I should add that the book references Joey DeVita, as well.

  • Joseph Fosco

    Dear Norman,

    I have not read the book, I do know about it. I would assume the information that Corbitt shares about the Bastone’s, Red and Uncle Charlie is very different from the information that I have published on the those people. I have met the Bastone brothers personally. I never met “Red” L. After my dad died in 1987, Charlie Nicosia hugged and kissed me and told me “I am your father now.” As for Joey DeVita, I know him very well.

  • corn nose

    nicosia orders a murder in that book.

    even though it probably came from joe b. and aiuppa, nicosia allegedly told corbitt to kill diane masters and take the little black book in her possession.

  • Joseph Fosco

    Dear Corn,

    Sam Carlisi and Charlie Nicosia were cousins. If I had to guess, I would say that Nicosia’s influence positioned his cousin as boss. The old-timers used to take Charlie’s advice very seriously. I have never met a man quite as influential as Charlie Nicosia.

    Shortly after my father died, an older fellow in the community told me that my dad was a hit man in the 1950’s. I was troubled by this unsubstantiated allegation; therefore, I decided to inform Uncle Charlie about it. Uncle Charlie asked me the name of the man that said it, while shaking his head in disbelief. Uncle Charlie looked right at me and told me “It’s not true; your father was a beautiful man.”

    As far as the allegations that Charlie Nicosia ordered the murder of Mrs. Masters – I say, “I do not believe it, Charlie was a beautiful man.”

  • Joseph Fosco

    Dear Corn,

    With respect to Charlie Nicosia being the most influential person I have met, I would have to apologize. My friend Conrad Black probably takes the cake.

    Conrad, I am sorry that I forgot about you for a minute.

  • Joseph Fosco

    Dear Norman,

    I realize that I never answered your final question – about credibility of the book. I really cannot say for sure. As I said, I did not read it. From what I gather, the author wrote it based on his own experiences, therefore, who am I to call him a liar – I never met him. I will say that of the individuals you mentioned who are listed in his book – they were all closely affiliated. In other words, its seems there is a consistency.

  • Anth

    Dear Joe,

    Curious to know if you had info on the Grieco brothers, who they belonged to. Are they still around?

    • Dear Anth,

      How are you spelling the name? Grieco?

    • The Don

      I believe the Grieco brothers worked under Fifi Bucciere years ago.

  • Anth

    Correct. The one brothers name was Joe the other Donald. They lived in Norridge. They would be well into their years if they are still living today. They go back to the 1960’s. They were listed as still possibly active in the mid 1990’s.

    • Dear Anth,

      I will check my sources and get back to you.

  • Anth

    appreciate it, Joe. Thank’s for your time.

  • The Don

    Joe, you seem like a very knowledgable guy and very straight forward. I like your style and enjoy reading your blogs. Do you know anything about an old elmwood park soldier named Joe Lombardi? I believe he worked under Willie Messino for a while.I believe he had a problem with Messino and was very jealous of him and some other made guys in the elmwwod park faction of the outfit. could you shed any more light on this subject?

    • Joseph Fosco

      Dear The Don,
      I know of Joe Lombardi. He did have a relationship with Willie. Yes, their relationship became estranged. I am not sure why. I do know that Dr. Giacchino maintained a relationship with Lombardi – if Lombardi is still alive, I would see no reason to believe that their relationship would have ended.

      • The Don

        Joe, yes, Lombardi is still alive. He lives on the south side and I believe he has not been an active soldier for the Elmwood Park group for a long time. Willie originally brought him into the Outfit as a Juice/juke box collector. He was one of Willie’s men for awhile. Back in 1993, a friend of his borrowed money from somebody with Elmwood Park. Lombardi apparently felt sorry for the guy and bought his loan so the guy would owe him instead of the other guys. I believe it was $5,000. Anyway, the friend then was behind on payments to Lombardi, got scared, and ran to the feds. The feds busted Lombardi and wanted him to talk but Lombardi refused. He went to prison the end of 1998 and got out the beginning of 2001. Did you ever hear this story?

        • Joseph Fosco

          Dear The Don,
          I know all about Lombardi and his constant frequenting of Bruno’s Gas Station in the 70’s and possibly early 80’s, which was located on Armitage and Harlem. It was a Hood hangout in the morning time at the gas station. Alderman Farina hung there too. lol.
          Lombardi is a close friend to Dr. Giacchino. Since it has been about 5-years since I had any communication with Giacchino as a patient, I had no idea if whether Lombardi had passed away recently. Giacchino mentioned him all the time.
          Thank you for the update.

          • Johnny Smith

            Dear Joe,
            It seems like everyone that is brought up on here is no longer active. My question to you is there anyone still active?
            Apparently, once they get older or get out of jail, they leave ‘the life’ behind them.
            Truthfully Joe, is there still an ‘outfit’ today? It just seems like that day is dead.

          • Joseph Fosco

            Dear Johnny,
            The Outfit is still around. It is based out of Cicero. Look at the Cicero stuff on the internet. We do not cover much of it here. I write mostly about my experiences. I never had anything to do with Cicero, other than knowing Betty Maltese who is a part-time writer for me. Thank you.

          • Mr. G

            Joe Lombardi passed away after midnight 11/15/ 2003

  • Teets

    Is Betty going to write more? Hopefully she’ll write about her experiences with Salvatore DeLaurentis and Joseph Ferriola.

    • Joseph Fosco

      Dear Teets,
      I will ask her to write some more.

  • M.T.P.

    Again, this corroborates much of what who have said in the article and thread:

    (Chicago Sun Times — January 31, 1992)

    “Dominic Senese , 75, ex-union boss who survived mob hit”

    Reputed mobster Dominic Senese, 75, the former head of a Teamsters local who survived a mob murder attempt three years ago, died Wednesday at his Oak Brook home. He was said to have had cancer.

    Mr. Senese who had been president of the 2,500-member Teamsters Local 703, Produce Drivers and Warehousemen. In January, 1988, he was opening a security gate outside his home when he was wounded by shotgun pellets. He managed to drive his car up a short driveway, stagger into his home and tell his wife, Sadie, to call police.

    The case remains unsolved. But it was rumored the hit was ordered by late crime boss Joseph Ferriola. It was also said Mr. Senese knew his attackers but made a deal with mob bosses to keep silent in exchange for no more attempts on his life.

    In July, 1990, he was ousted from union leadership by a federal court-appointed administrator investigating mob ties to the Teamsters.

    Mr. Senese, who once bragged he was mob chief Tony Accardo’s cousin, earned a reputation as an enforcer for Joseph “Joey” Glimcoe, a known mobster and union organizer, at the Fulton Street markets in the 1950s.

    He pleaded the Fifth Amendment in 1959 while appearing with Glimcoe before a Senate rackets committee. The panel and its chief counsel, the late Robert F. Kennedy, were investigating kickbacks in the market.

    A former union organizer in the market testified that Mr. Senese and a companion hit him in the jaw and broke a bottle on his head in an effort to force him to retire.

    Two years later, Mr. Senese headed a list of 30 witnesses subpoenaed in a federal grand jury probe of a company supplying janitors to McCormick Place and other establishments. Mr. Senese again took the Fifth Amendment.

    In 1965, his name surfaced in the news when he was implicated in the murder of Mandel “Manny” Skar, a mob front man.

    In 1979 and 1983, Mr. Senese tried to unseat Louis F. Pieck as president of the powerful Teamsters Joint Counsel 25. At the time, he denied any mobs ties and any relationship with Accardo.

    A funeral chapel spokesman said the family did not provide a list of survivors.

    Services will be held at 10 a.m. today at Adams-Winterfield Funeral Home, 4343 Main, Downers Grove. Mass will be offered at 10:30 a.m. at St. Mary’s Catholic Church, 444 Wilson St., Downers Grove. Burial will be in Queen of Heaven Cemetery, 1400 S. Wolf Road, Hillside.

    Chicago Sun-Times (IL)

    Date: January 31, 1992


    Page: 45

    Record Number: CHI738883

    Copyright (c) 1992 Chicago Sun-Times, Inc.

    • Joseph Fosco

      Dear M.T.P.,
      Let us keep in mind that Ferriola took orders from Carlisi and DiFronzo. Thank you for the information.

      • The Don

        Joe, when Lombardo got out of prison around 1992 and Carlisi was about to go into prison, did he become one of the Top two Bosses in the Outfit with DiFronzo? In other words, did he replace Carlisi? I don’t know a lot about the Grand Ave. faction. I believe Tony Spilotro was with Grand Ave. Was Louie( Mooch ) Eboli with Grand Ave.? Also, back in the 1980’s when Lombardo was one of the 6 Capos under Auippa & Cerone, who was his right arm/underboss in his faction?

        • Joseph Fosco

          Dear The Don,
          Joe Lump (Aiuppa called him the Clown as a way of teasing him because the media dubbed him as such) was definitely a boss of some sort, however I am unclear as to how his position fit in with the others you are asking about. Sorry.
          Louie the Mooch was with Aiuppa.
          The German could have been Lombardo’s right arm at that point, because they were close. I will double check with a reliable source and get back to you later today if I was incorrect.

          • Dom

            Did Tony Spilotro belong to Lombardo?

          • Joseph Fosco

            Dear Dom,
            Tony was on his own, but he would listen to Lombardo out of respect.

          • Dom

            I read somewhere on here that they wanted to bump off Lombardo with the Spilotro brothers. Why did they want him?

          • Joseph Fosco

            Dear Dom,
            The bosses were very mad at Spilotro. And they knew that Lombardo contributed to Spilotro’s growth into a monster, meaning someone they could not control.

  • Harlem “Don the Jeweller” Playboy


    Did you know that Lucien Senese (Dominic’s son) was blown up in a car bombing incident. Luckily, he survived, too. Didn’t JB go apesh*t when Dominic and Lucien were attacked?

    • Joseph Fosco

      Dear Harlem,
      I know all about the bad luck of the Senese family in latter years. I do not know JB’s reaction to the Senese stuff. I would think that he understood.

      • The Don

        Joe, you need to do a story or article on the most powerful Mafia Boss ever in this country. His name was Sam Giancana. Mooney was a REAL GANGSTER in every sense of the word. Love him or despise him, he was it! The whole history of Taylor St. and the 42’s who were his gang that actually evolved into the nucleus of the Chicago Outfit. Guys like Battaglia, Bucciere, Caifano, Nicoletti, English, Daddano, DeStefano, Potenza ect. all came from Taylor St. A couple of them, namingly Bucciere and Battaglia, became Capos with Teets Battaglia even becoming the Top Boss after Giancana. During this time, The Chicago Outfit was the most powerful Mafia group in the country. More powerful than any of the 5 New York groups. the Outfit was the best organized, had the most political power and made the most money per man than any other group in the country. They even helped elect a President of the United States in 1960! The Outfit was the silent Government of Chicago. It was explained to me on more than one occasion, that the structure of the Outfit was different than New York by design. while New York had 5 families with all the ‘soldiers’ being made guys, the Oufit had 1 powerful unit with a smaller inner core of made guys. Instead of all the soldiers being made guys like New York, most of the soldiers worked for ‘made’ guys in Chicago. This made the core group more elite. Giancana had tremendous loyalty from the guys that were direct with him. He also had tremendous loyalty from Capos Battaglia & Bucciere. Paul Ricca was Mooney’s guardian angel. By 1975, when Mooney returned to Chicago, Ricca had died along with Battaglia, Bucciere and many of the other made men from Taylor St.

        • The Don

          Joe, I’d like to add another thought that corresponds to Giancana. We’ve discussed Cerone and how he wasn’t well liked & how he didn’t treat his men as well as he should have & how he basically was a cheapskate etc. However, sometimes you have to give the devil his due. What I mean is that Jack made a very smart move like a good chess player by getting Auippa to go along with his decision to knock Mooney down. He even got Accardo to look the other way. CERONE KNEW it was kill or be killed when it came to Mooney. He struck first before Giancana had time to get things together.

          • Joseph Fosco

            Dear The Don,
            You have made a good point. It is too bad that someone in Mooney’s inner circle made Cerone’s wish to kill Giancana possible. I would rather blame the rat in Mooney’s circle than the smarts of a man that wound up going to prison for nearly the rest of his life after getting what he wanted for so long.
            Cerone was a dead man any way you look at it. If he did not beat Mooney to the punch, Mooney would have killed him. If he did not go to prison for nearly the rest of his life, Aiuppa would have killed him after Accardo’s passing in 92. Cerone’s imprisonment was his only protection. The day the judge handed down his long sentence, Cerone should have stood up and thanked His Honor.

        • Joseph Fosco

          Dear The Don,
          You did not leave anything for me to write. LOL. Good job. Nice article. Thanks.

      • Mr. Rubbishbeard

        Dear Harlem Playboy and Joe,

        Personally, I do *NOT* believe the rumor that Dominic Senese himself planted the explosive device in his son’s car all because his son, Lucien, had been told repeatedly to not leave his toys laying around, and to not leave his bigwheel in the driveway. This is an unfounded theory, in my opinion.

        • Joseph Fosco

          Dear Mr. Rubbish…,
          I agree.

          • Horsey


  • Black Angelo

    Joe tell me with your guess or “know with all” on how accurate the following is below of what the Chicago Outfit looked like in the mid 1930s after Capone went away in 1931.
    The Torrio/Capone Syndicate aka Chicago Outfit circa 1935

    Johnny Torrio (Chairman)
    Frank Nitti (Boss/Ceo)
    “Little New York” Campagana – (Underboss)
    Paul Ricca (Consigliere)
    Frank Rio (Envoy/Street Boss)
    Phil D’Andrea (Grand Ave/Street Boss)

    Melrose Park – Rocco DeGrazia
    Elmwood Park – Tony Accardo
    North Ave – Jack McGurn
    Harlem Ave – Tony Capezio
    26th street/Chinatown – Bruno Roti
    Cicero – Ralph Capone
    Taylor Street/The Patch – Sam Giancana and 42 Gang
    Da Heights – Frank LaPorte and his crime family
    Lake County – Rocco Fischetti and John Capone
    North side (Lil Sicily) – Ross Prio

    Outfit Nationwide Capo’s
    Iowa – Louis Fratto
    Las Vegas/ L.A. – Johnny Roselli
    Miami – Charles Fischetti
    Unions – Joey Glimco and Murray Humpreys

    ** I was going to list Tony Capezio as the street boss only because he was married to Nitti’s sister. But felt D’Andrea or Rio would have been in the pecking order to be higher up. And Capezio may have had Elmwood Park and Accardo at Harlem ave.

    Also I don’t feel Al Capone gets enough credit for organizing the city in the 1920s because Chicago could of easily had 3 to 4 crime families if he had not. Frank Nitti took Capones consolidation and gave each boss his own area or region in Chicago or the Usa to control his rackets and kick up to him.

    But until Frank LaPorte died (in 1972) and Sam Giancana got a promotion in the 1940s/50s I don’t feel the city was completely organized until then.

    Because Giancana and his 42 gang and LaPorte and his Mafia in the Heights was crime families un to themselves. I don’t think anybody told Frank LaPorte what to do ever or to kick up stairs to Nitti or his successors etc.. JF, Your thoughts or changes…

    • Joseph Fosco

      Dear Black,
      It does not look very accurate, especially in the beginning. I really do not want to edit it. I am working on other things. Email me your address and I would be glad to submit a statement indicating what my retainer would be for such a research project.

  • Black Angelo

    Nah its not that big of a deal. That organization is so far removed and secrative its hard to get a good accurate reading of who was the top administration anyhow.

    Some of it is common knowledge though: et al Bruno Roti, Rocco DeGrazio, Phil D’Andrea, Rocco Fischetti, Frank LaPorte, Ralph Capone, Ross Prio, Charlie Fischetti, Louis Fratto, Joey Glimco.

    The Top Administration is where it gets murky and where Capezio or Accardo fell into line. Or when Campagana or Ricca took over.

    It doesnt really even seem that Giancana’s people would have a good reading of the upper echelon of the Outfit back then and they would know if anybody. so I dont know how anyone else would know.

    I’m sure they was told the same hand me down stories as anyone else was by a neighborhood guy or father or uncle that was connected.

    I was told Johnny Torrio was always truly behind the scenes. But dont worry about JF it’s not that big of a deal. So go work on other projects like that Messino one.

    • Joseph Fosco

      Dear Black,

      I will look into the info below:

      “Some of it is common knowledge though: et al Bruno Roti, Rocco DeGrazio, Phil D’Andrea, Rocco Fischetti, Frank LaPorte, Ralph Capone, Ross Prio, Charlie Fischetti, Louis Fratto, Joey Glimco.
      The Top Administration is where it gets murky and where Capezio or Accardo fell into line. Or when Campagana or Ricca took over.

      Black, the Messino piece is up:

  • Black Angelo

    Hey Joe

  • Special Quest Explorer

    Hi Joe Fosco, I guess you can say I followed you and Black Angelo to this article. Anyway, I have  a question on the Food and trucking Industry. A lot of my friends I hung around with at 3 Olives were truck drivers or sales people, for a couple of trucking companies! My question is do any of these particular truck companies have organized crime influences hidden in thier upper wings? These are the trucking companies they work for; Greco Trucking, Brattaglia Trucking and Pompalio Trucking? SQE

  • Special Quest Explorer

    Yes, also in further, Joe Fosco, I have grown up with many friends in the pasta business. These would be “Pasta Fresh” and “Perfect Pasta!” I believe that there are a number of Italian import and export businesses that we grew up in the neighborhood. I remember hearing about an M&N export trucking business. As we grew up, in the neighborhood, I can remember a “Perfect Pasta,” location at Grand and Neva. Addison, Illinois, was the next place Lou the owners son moved to. I still see the “Perfect Pasta ” truck to this day! Lou was once associated with the prior place called Bar La panina. In our younger days Lou and among many other friends would then hang at a Lounge called the 123 Disco. (Diversey/Central) I wonder if you yourself, in your younger days is a 123 buff? Oh’ll yes, then later on some of our many friends that I knew from the 3 Olive worked at Harlem Meat! With all of this being said, do any of these places, I had just mentioned above, hold wings to organized crime elements?  I believe a Gino owned “Pasta Fresh,” located on Harlem Ave, near Addison! Thanks Joe, for any up dates. SQE

  • Michael Magnafichi was not my source for the article on the
    Senese hit. In fact, he disagreed with some of it. Michael contends that Johnny
    DiFronzo did not play a part in executing the hit on Senese. He explained that Carlisi
    was not entirely fond of Johnny in general and might not have fully appreciated
    having Johnny as his underboss. According to Michael, Johnny told Lee (earshot
    of Michael) that Carlisi sanctioned the hit without consulting Johnny. This
    conversation was to have taken place at Cafe La Cave in Des Plaines, Illinois.
    As a result of Carlisi’s decision to knock down Senese without informing
    Johnny, Johnny expressed fear to Lee that Carlisi was going to have him
    (Johnny) killed next. Apparently Johnny was wrong.

    • Heavy D’s Nuts

      I’m surprised that the killing crew didn’t suffer retribution for a botched job. Senese said nothing…

      • Right, Dom did not beef. However, on the other hand, he did not see the guys in the car who rolled up on him, unlike Ken Eto who saw everything.

        • Heavy D’s Nuts

          Why wouldn’t Johnny take out Matassa or Hatch for not completing the job? This organization was rife with favorites.

          • It is obvious that Johnny is an Outfit boss like no other.

          • Heavy D’s Nuts

            Say Johnny goes away to prison or worse. Who steps up?

          • Things are so goofed up for the Outfit that I would not be surprised if a moron like Tony Dote would step up.

          • Heavy D’s Nuts

            Sadly, I don’t know anything about him. But realistically, anyone involved with this Outfit has to be a complete idiot. Can’t trust anyone, no real leadership, political allies, modern G, it’s a horrible choice. Angelini jr is a good example. Dad was involved, go to law school.

          • Don Angelini Jr is an interesting person. He goes through life as a do-gooder who took a clean path unlike Senior. However, when Seniors hoodlum associates find themselves in trouble, “do-gooder Junior” is happy to rush to their aid. Seems odd.

          • Heavy D’s Nuts

            Capitalism. He seems ok. Kind of prickly, but has a family.

          • Capitalism? I know Donny. I would be very surprised if he charges his dad’s criminal colleagues.

          • Heavy D’s Nuts

            Didn’t help Rudy. I guess you get what you pay for…

          • Donny represented Rudy in both of his federal cases. Art “the old man” Nasser helped a bit. Donny didn’t help Rudy out of going to prison, but he did represent Rudy.

          • Heavy D’s Nuts

            I meant to say the Don jr didn’t keep Rudy out of jail…

          • Right.

          • Heavy D’s Nuts

            Good luck on the podcast tomorrow. Make it count.

          • Thank you. Will do.

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