Thursday, April 18

TEC-Carrier Heiress Mary Ann Mungo Speaks Out On Rudy Fratto

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I received a frantic call sometime in July of 2009 from TEC-Carrier Heiress Mary Ann Mungo, requesting that I meet with her at one of our little Oak Brook hideaways. Mary Ann, a long time acquaintance of mine, had recently extended me some financial aid to cover some research expenses regarding my civil RICO complaint against Rudy Fratto and others. For this reason, among countless others, I was more than happy to meet with her.

I thought our meeting would revolve around our usual topics of conversation. She often wants to discuss her ex-husband and her intense wish to expose him as an evil-doer, or her role in the divorce of Howard Bernick and Carol Lavin Bernick, of Alberto-Culver Company (as a side note, the complete story on the Bernick divorce should be published soon).

So it was to my great surprise that Mary Ann instead wished to talk about the FBI.

Evidently the FBI recently visited her home and summoned her to a federal grand jury that was purportedly convened to investigate Rudy Fratto. Apparently, Mary Ann introduced her ex-boyfriend, Mike Posner (owner of Excelsior, the Aruba-based casino where Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway was last seen alive), to Rudy Fratto years ago. Posner and Fratto decided to partner in a check processing venture. According to Mary Ann, the FBI was seeking information about this venture in the hopes that it could lead to tax evasion charges for Fratto.

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  1. I happen to know personally that Mary Ann Mungo is obsessed with her ex-husband. She plays it cool, but every chance she gets; she is on him like white on rice. I hope that she gets psychiatric help. I am sure that her late father is rolling in his grave because of her many pathetic behaviors.
    G

  2. Mary Ann Mungo better not destroy her children over her insane obsession with gambling and her pathetic desire to secretly stalk her ex-husband!

  3. ITS SWEET KNOWING I HAVE WHAT MARY
    ANN MUNGO WANTS (JERRY).ALL HER MONEY
    AND SHE CAN’T BUY HIM.GIVE IT UP,ITS
    BEEN 12 YEARS.MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE!!
    THE KIDS HAVE SUFFERED ENOUGH WITHOUT
    THEIR FATHER.USE YOUR MONEY TO GET
    HELP!!!THAT OLD SAYING MONEY CAN’T
    BUY CLASS SURE HOLDS TRUE IN THIS
    SITUATION.STALKING IS ILLEGAL!!!

  4. Taking away a good Father from his kids is unexcusable. This woman needs serious, professional help. She has caused great havoc to me and my family. How she sleeps at night is unreal. Her son is on the verge of a nervous breakdown, thankfully her daughter can stand up for herself (at least a little). This truly is a sick, evil, deranged woman with a horrible gambling and power problem. Money solves nothing, as we all know she has plenty and is a walking stalker. I’ve seen first hand where all she wants is her ex in jail, even though he was ready to pay child support and DID!!! Please get help! Don’t ruin your kids over your addictions. I look forward to the day (very soon) when all the truth comes out. GET HELP!!!

  5. Dear Just Asking,
    Look, I am not attempting to perpetuate a smear campaign here. Sure, I disagree with Mary Ann continually exposing her beautiful children to drug addicts, criminals, gamblers and other unstable people. However, I will be the first to say that her brief sojourn with 20-year-old Lee Sobey was nothing more than a serious social arrangement. Two people living together could be innocent; it does not necessarily mean romance is part of the equation. Come on, Mary Ann used to change Lee’s diapers. She is 20-years older than he is. Yes, she is not married and Lee is a very good-looking young man, but, Mary Ann, I am sure, has higher morals that that. I hope she does for her children’s sake. I know, simply ask Lee’s mom, Patty, what her feelings are on the subject.

  6. YES, YOU SHOULD ASK PATTY,I AM QUITE SURE YOU WILL BE AMAZED AT HER RESPONSE.ALSO HIGHER MORALS… THAT IS SOOOO UNTRUE SHE HAS NO MORALS.HAVING AFFAIRS WITH MARRIED MEN IS HAVING MORALS?????HOW ABOUT THE KIDS?WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THEY SAW THEIR FATHER?

  7. Joe,
    Mary Ann Mungo showed a friend of mine a letter that you supposedly sent to her begging her for a job and/or money. It does not make sense to me that you would do that. Do you care to elaborate?

  8. Dear Sandy,

    Interesting. If true, I am not surprised. Mary Ann could be extremely deceitful when she wants to be. If I recall correctly, sometime in the spring of 2009, Mary Ann racked up another gambling debt that she desperately needed to hide from her brother Skip. According to Mary Ann, her brother Skip restricted her spending because of her reckless gambling problem. In fact, she told me that one of Skip’s friends that has a wife that works as an accountant monitors Mary Ann’s spending for him. I know that Mary Ann was very upset about it.

    Getting back to the springtime of 2009, Mary Ann asked me to help her establish an alibi regarding 5 or 10-thousand dollars of her gambling expenses. I realize that does not seem like a great deal of money for Mary Ann, however, Skip was watching every penny like a hawk, as he detests her gambling addiction. Therefore, as a friend I agreed to help her. I remained on standby in case the accountant would call me to verify that I received some money for a personal matter. However, I never heard from the accountant. This fiasco took place a little after the time Mary Ann bestowed a little money upon me to cover part of the research on the RICO complaint that I filed against the Outfit. Mary Ann discreetly hated the Fratto’s so much that she took a personal interest in my RICO complaint (however, she is quite capable of resuscitating her relations with people that she does not like, such as Fratto, and may have done so by now – Mary Ann’s purported wealth provides her the unique tool to reestablish seemingly solid relationships when she decides to). Poor and desperate people usually try to stay on Mary Ann’s good side, which usually never amounts to anything substantial for the poor fools. In addition, Mary Ann tried to have one of Rudy’s sons thrown out of high school because she was sure the son lived out of district, which she was incorrect.

    Oh, more of this coming back to me now, she asked me to submit an IOU to cover her ass with her brother, however, I could not mention the money pertained to research on the RICO complaint (Mary Ann said the IOU would never be enforced).

    By May or June 2009, we entered in to a partnership in an antique store. Mary Ann agreed to put up her end of the money before I met with the property owner and signed a 2-year lease, which comes to a great deal of money. Mary Ann insisted that I personally grantee the lease without her being named on it. She was worried that Skip would have a baby over the liability it would bring having her name on the lease. Despite the wealth of the family, they are very money-minded (except for Mary Ann). I saw no problem with it, as I assumed Mary Ann would honor her word. I thought Skip would be sure to allow her to use some of her money on a legitimate business venture.

    To my surprise, Mary Ann did not come up with an additional penny for our business. She cited a concern with one of my employees that barrowed her jeep (that she bought from her sister for her son one year early of his 16th birthday), he apparently kept it for one extra day, which supposedly upset Mary Ann. Sometime after that, Mary Ann explained to me the problem indicated in the article above regarding her dangerous involvement with Rudy Fratto and his associates caused her to back out of our short-lived business venture all together. The only reason that I am not suing her for breach of contract is because I feel sorry for her. She got in way over her head with Fratto and his associates, which is why I authored the article above last September, I want to shine a spotlight on Fratto and his dealings, and in this case, it involves two beautiful and innocent children – Mary Ann’s children. I pray to God that whatever exposures her kids have had with Fratto and others like him does not turn out to be a tragedy for the Mungo family.

    Please let me know if I have addressed your questions.

  9. Dear Sandy,
    One more thing, if it is true, please tell you friend that Mary Ann should blow her expensive nose on whatever stupid papers of mine she is purportedly showing people.
    I feel sorry for her, but I am not going to kiss her a**.

  10. Anyone that would believe anything that comes out of Mary Ann’s fat ugly mouth (that has found its way to numerous barn doors) would have to be desperate for money. Money is the only attraction that fat old ugly pig has. Keep buying 20-year-old crack heads because that is the only way you can get off Mary Ann. The thought of Mary Ann (aka Marty Feldman) walking around with papers that appear to be someone’s written request for money or a job is something that only Mary Ann could pull together. I would guess that she printed them herself. She is obviously desperate to make you look bad, Joe.

  11. Dear Ann,
    Be nice. Mary Ann has a wonderful mother, Elizabeth, who could possibly read these comments. I would not want any mother to read stuff like this about their child.
    I do not owe Mary Ann a dime and never owed her anything. In fact, counting the favors I have done for her, she owes me.

  12. BOY,OH BOY, EVERYONE HAS MARYANN’S NUMBER. SHE RECYCLE’S HER SO CALLED FRIENDS…(WHERE ARE THEY?)AND ABOUT THE NOSE COMMENT JOE, YOU KNOW ABOUT THE NOSE JOB SHE HAD?AND YOU GO ANN, WHAT DID MARYANN DO TO YOU OR MAYBE YOUR HUSBAND, SINCE SHE ONLY LIKES MARRIED MEN.OF COURSE SANE SINGLE MEN RUN AS FAST AS THEY CAN.AND SHE STILL IS STALKING HER EX-HUSBAND GOING AS FAR AS REKINDLING HER RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS FAMILY…FOR THE SAKE OF THE KIDS….????? WHAT ABOUT THE FATHER WHEN HAVE THEY SEEN HIM, WHAT HAPPENED FOR CHRISTMAS EVE??????EVIL,EVIL,EVIL.. AGAIN THE OLD SAYING MONEY CAN NOT BUY CLASS… SEEK HELP MARYANN YOU SURELY NEED IT.

  13. How DARE you publicize something like a personal letter between two people! How DARE you come here to gossip!

    Shame on you, Sandy!

    (Joe, is it possible that this so-called “Sandy” is really none other than Kim Fratto!?!?!)

  14. It is pretty underhanded to go ahead and make the contents of a private correspondence public on the internet. Especially since “Sandy” apparently wasn’t even the person Mungo showed the letter to.

  15. Dear Visitor (1/12/10, 11:45),

    You must be wrong! There is no way Jerry’s family would ever allow Mary Ann the opportunity to manipulate them like a bunch of fools. Mary Ann lacked the decency to attend her former mother-in-laws wake and funeral (God rest her soul). I know the family well enough to know that Mary Ann’s charm and wealth will not penetrate the family’s good values.

    However, in a weak moment, if Jerry’s family decides to forgive Mary Ann for the sake of her children, I believe that Mary Ann would take advantage of the situation and play it against Jerry to further complicate his relationship with his children, as Jerry is currently embroiled in a personal family debacle relating to a number of indifferences.

    Oh my God, I would hate to think that Mary Ann would use the timing of such a hurtful situation to further her attack on Jerry.

    Now, I am compelled to go a little deeper here. Perhaps the information I am about to share will one day reach Jerry’s family. I mean this in a positive way, of course.

    Mary Ann Mungo had confided in me a great deal of information over the past 7 or 8 years of our acquaintanceship. She informed me that she is still outraged that Jerry divorced her, despite her claim that she was cheating on him with her previous lover, prominent Chicago Attorney Marc Martin, who bestowed her 3-digit license plate upon her. Mary Ann told me that she asked one of her married boyfriends, Mike Posner (indicated in the article above) to have his friend, Illinois State Senator Jimmy DeLeo create some red tape for Jerry’s business venture a number of years ago, which seemed to play out just as she described.

    Mary Ann has underhandedly caused her ex-husband to lose his job. Sadly, I inadvertently aided and abetted her in this particular situation. If my memory serves me correct I allowed Mary Ann the opportunity to rely on one of my personal assistants to help her make some phone calls sometime in the fall of 2007, thru the winter of 2007-2008. Not until a considerable amount of time had passed did I learn the true nature of her intentions related to my personal assistant helping her with these phone calls.

    Apparently, my assistant placed Mary Ann on hold while he phoned a list of people on our other business phone, on Mary Ann’s behalf. Among the individuals on the list, that Mary Ann provided was Jerry’s employer. From what I have learned, Marry Ann took advantage of my assistant by making him believe they were playing a joke on a friend of hers. Not so.

    What I have recently come to learn is that Mary Ann Mungo advised my assistant to misinform Jerry’s employer citing that Jerry is a criminal who is currently under investigation for dangerous criminal activities. Sadly, this caused Jerry to lose his employment. To make matters worse, Mary Ann purportedly brought it to the courts attention (family court) that Jerry was no longer employed, which compromised his ability to pay child support. Mary Ann has been desperately trying to have Jerry incarcerated as a dead-beat dad. In my opinion, Jerry’s inability to catch up with child support stems from the underhanded interference that Mary Ann has caused with her wealth and connections. In her words to me, she relied on a State Senator (Jimmy DeLeo) to sabotage her ex-husband’s business plans for the purpose of jackpotting him in family court. And she used me to get to my assistant for the phone calls to Jerry’s boss. Now I understand what she meant every time I heard her say, ‘I will get even with Jerry by putting him in jail if it is the last thing I do’.

    To think of all the good things Mary Ann could do with her wealth, she would rather feed her reckless gambling addiction, spend hundreds of thousands of her late father’s dollars on her wardrobe and torture her ex-husband (not to mention what it is doing to her children). What shocks me is this spoiled little girl comes from two of the most wonderful human beings in the world, the Late Frank Mungo and his lovely wife of many years, Elizabeth.

    For all parties involved, I pray to God that Mary Ann gets help and goes on with her life appropriately. I pray that Jerry is granted a reprieve from the Hell Mary Ann has put him through for many years. Most of all, I pray that Jerry and Mary Ann’s beautiful children one day forgive their mother for what she has done. May God prevent these beautiful kids form sustaining permanent damage from the emotional stress inflicted upon them by their mother’s despicable actions.

  16. Oh my GOD!

    If you ask me, this all sounds like a lot of illegal criminal activity!

    Try that on for size, SANDY! You will never ruin Joe Fosco, I can promise you that much! (He is too good of man.) How DARE you publicize something like a personal letter between two people!

  17. Dear Mr. “Horrendous F-rt”

    Please change your “name” because it is disgusting and made me nauseous and sick to my stomach when I read your comment. Also, Joseph Fosco has warned his readers in the past about profanity, so please watch your language for the sake of decency. The word “f-rt” is dangerously close to the word “sh-t.” Both are considered swears. Consider yourself WARNED!

    You truly are disgusting and CRUDE!

    (I’m assuming you are man, that’s why I refer to you as “Mr.” instead of “Ms.”)

    PS: I hope and pray that you are ASHAMED of yourself “Sandy!”

  18. Dear “Sandy” and Mr. “Horrendous F-rt”

    Seeing as neither of you have apologized, I want you to know that I filed two separate complaints with the FCC regarding your behavior and use of foul toilet-language, respectively.

    Even though my complaints were immediately rejected, and despite being mercilessly chastised by an FCC representative over the phone for having “wasted” his “time”, I want you to know that my attitude toward your use of Joe’s comments box has definitely NOT changed.

    Admittedly, I am embarrassed that my complaints were rejected, but that will definitely NOT prevent me from filing further complaints if your inappropriate behavior persists.

    I thought I’d just take this little opportunity to let you know how dangerously close you came to being taken into investigative custody by a federal agency.

    (Apparently, it’s completely legal to gossip and use disgusting language online. I am ASHAMED to be an American because of this.)

  19. Anthony Anonymous on

    Ladies and Gentlemen,
    We’re all sophisticated adults here. I think that you are all wonderful people and I just wanted to thank you for making me smile. It has been fascinating reading this blog. Life is too short … make sure you take some time to live, love, and laugh.

  20. HORRENDOUS FART on

    I HEREBY DECLARE THE COMMENTOR NAMED “RE RE” TO BE BATSH#T CRAZY. I THINK THE FACT THAT THE FCC REP. LAUGHED AT YOU SHOWS HOW CRAZY YOU ARE. AND ALSO, I DON’T THINK THE FCC ARRESTS PEOPLE… HA HA HA.

    JOE,

    MARY ANN SOUNDS FRIGGIN’ SINISTER!

  21. DEAR JOE,
    ONE WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT MARYANN COULD NOT MANIPULATE HER EX-HUSBANDS FAMILY,BUT THEN AGAIN WHY WOULD THEY GIVE HER THE TIME OF DAY..? AND OUTRAGED THAT JERRY DIVORCED HER, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND HE CALLED OFF THE WEDDING 2 WEEKS BEFORE THE DAY..SEEMS LIKE THAT IS A PATTERN FOR HER.SHE IS STILL IN LOVE WITH JERRY TOO BAD HE WAS NEVER IN LOVE WITH HER.ALSO WHAT DOES MARY ANN AKA(MARTY FELDMAN)MEAN HE HAS BULGING EYES AND ONE GOES ONE WAY AND ONE GOES THE OTHER WAY? OH NO– NOW I GET IT!!!!!

  22. Hey Visitor,

    What personal stake do you have in denigrating Mary Ann Mungo’s character on Joe’s blog? I’m not judging you, or saying that you are right or wrong for doing so. I’m simply curious.

    What is your axe to grind? Judging from your tone and use of all-caps, it sounds like she could have had designs on your husband’s package.

  23. I noticed, “Re Re” on this thread and “Kelvin” on the “Fratto Is On The Wrong Side” thread, likes to leave a statement near the bottom of their posts in parentheses. I do not recall seeing that style here at KTF before.

  24. Aww, rats. Discovered. You got me, Fosco.

    Just kidding, obviously.

    Couldn’t I just as easily argue that “Re Re” uses exclamation points excessively and that you, Fosco, have that same tendency?

    Listen, if the comments left by “Re Re” are serious, then they are stupid and exclamatory, and betray a paranoid quality in the commentator. Not that I am personally attacking anyone, but filing a complaint with the FCC over online gossip and use of the word “fart” are two of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever heard.

    If, however, the comments left by “Re Re” are the work of an Internet crank, which I suspect they are, then they are hilarious. In this case, I wish I could say I had written them. I, however, am not that creative and don’t have that much free time.

    Also, I would never argue that Joe Fosco is too good of a man to be defeated, as “Re Re” does. This is not because Fosco is a bad man, but because I don’t know him personally.

  25. Talk about being picked on.

    Joe, you are slamming this lady Mary Ann in the context of a blog post that praises her.

  26. Dear Faux,

    There have been developments since I authored the article last September that changes the tone. I believe the comments explain that.

    Do not be concerned about her. Mary Ann Mungo is purportedly a multi-millionaire that is extremely knowledgeable on the judicial process. She has spent a fortune on legal expenses going after her ex-husband for an insignificant amount of money. Therefore, she is the ideal candidate to file I libel lawsuit against KTF Media Group and I. The only problem is I have not published anything that would be considered false. If you want to make sure she is aware of this, you can send her a message thru her families company, TEC, which I provide a link to in the article above.
    Thank you.

    PS- this is a case of another multi-millionaire that cannot bring a valid libel lawsuit against me.

  27. Dear Faux,
    Furthermore, if Mary Ann is being slammed, as you put it, the truth is slamming her, not me. Mary Ann should change her ways in order to stop the truth from slamming her.

  28. Dear Readers:
    If anyone feels that I have committed libel in any of my articles (see definition below), feel free to notify any (and/or all) of the multi-millionaires that I have commented on via KTF Media Group. If lawsuits start mounting and judgments are ordered against me (no chance), I will apologize at that time. Until then, I will continue to bring you credible news.
    Sincerely,
    /s/ Joseph Fosco, Publisher – KTF Media Group

    Libel:
    1) n. to publish in print (including pictures), writing or broadcast through radio, television or film, an untruth about another which will do harm to that person or his/her reputation, by tending to bring the target into ridicule, hatred, scorn or contempt of others. Libel is the written or broadcast form of defamation, distinguished from slander, which is oral defamation. It is a tort (civil wrong) making the person or entity (like a newspaper, magazine or political organization) open to a lawsuit for damages by the person who can prove the statement about him/her was a lie. Publication need only be to one person, but it must be a statement, which claims to be fact and is not clearly identified as an opinion. While it is sometimes said that the person making the libelous statement must have been intentional and malicious, actually it need only be obvious that the statement would do harm and is untrue. Proof of malice, however, does allow a party defamed to sue for general damages for damage to reputation, while an inadvertent libel limits the damages to actual harm (such as loss of business) called special damages. Libel per se involves statements so vicious that malice is assumed and does not require a proof of intent to get an award of general damages. Libel against the reputation of a person who has died will allow surviving members of the family to bring an action for damages. Most states provide for a party defamed by a periodical to demand a published retraction. If the correction is made, then there is no right to file a lawsuit. Governmental bodies are supposedly immune to actions for libel on the basis that there could be no intent by a non-personal entity, and further, public records are exempt from claims of libel. However, there is at least one known case in which there was a financial settlement as well as a published correction when a state government newsletter incorrectly stated that a dentist had been disciplined for illegal conduct. The rules covering libel against a “public figure” (particularly a political or governmental person) are special, based on U.S. Supreme Court decisions. The key is that to uphold the right to express opinions or fair comment on public figures, the libel must be malicious to constitute grounds for a lawsuit for damages. Minor errors in reporting are not libel, such as saying, Mrs. Jones was 55 when she was only 48, or getting an address or title incorrect. 2) v. to broadcast or publish a written defamatory statement.

  29. Joe – does Giacchino post on K.T.F. Media Group? How do you know that he will be facing federal charges soon for pushing drugs?

  30. Dear Banana,
    I have no idea if Giacchino posts on here. Are you Giacchino? Pushing drugs will likely be the least of Giacchino’s worries (however pushing drugs will be among them). I think the IRS will have a field day first (I think money laundering will be a part of his problem). How do I know this? It is merely an opinion that I formed after having a serious discussion with someone closely associated with federal law enforcement.

  31. Dear Banana,
    There are some other issues as well; however, I am not at liberty to discuss them here.

  32. Dear banana,
    You are a total moron.

    Dear Joe,
    What does it say about you that you’ve accumulated all this information about Mary Ann’s nefarious activities over the years, but have only chosen to reveal it now? I’d say that it says you are vindictive and petty.

    I guarantee that John DiFronzo would win a libel suit against you. You claim that a corpse with the lower appendage severed and inserted into the mouth is the handy work of DiFronzo. While that may true, tell me: who in the world is going to corroborate that in court? Is your elusive source going to stand up in court and say, “Yes, judge. I can corroborate the whole thing. Joe is telling the truth”?

    I bet the reason DiFronzo hasn’t pursued a libel suit is because it would be more trouble than it’s worth.

  33. Was what “Sandy” said about Mary Ann disgracing you behind your back enough to have you turn on her? I hope not.

    You know, Mary Ann might not have any standing for a libel suit, but I’m sure with all her money, she could make your life very difficult by filing frivolous suit after frivolous suit. Even if they get thrown out, people with money have a way of getting out of couter suits and having to reimburse defendents for attorney’s fees, you know.

  34. Dear Faux,

    The Mary Ann Mungo story (and its segments) was done by priority – she is not a big priority of mine, therefore, I covered it when I did. Please do not switch the focus from Mary Ann’s inappropriate behavior to the timing of my article and other comments.

    How do you ‘guarantee’ that DiFronzo would win a libel suit? Sounds like a slogan of a used car salesperson.

    I will tell you how I will win the DiFronzo lawsuit for libel as soon as he loses it. Until then, I have nothing to say about it.

    Your opinion is that DiFronzo has not filed a lawsuit because it is not worth the trouble.

    My opinion, he will not file a libel suit because he is guilty of being a mutilating serial killer.

    How many capable and decent people would not sue for libel on principal alone, if someone was making up and publishing horrendous lies about him or her (which I am not doing) – If just to clear their name.

  35. Dear Faux,
    Of course not. An unknown commenter on the internet could not cause me to have a change of hart about someone. However, this unknown commenter corroborated information that other people that I know personally have told me.
    I am well aware of Mary Ann’s options and I am not afraid of the idea of her filing frivolous lawsuits. It will give me something to write about.

  36. DEAR JOE,
    WHY WOULD MARY ANN CONSIDER BRINGING THIS INTO COURT? FIRST OF ALL YOU CAN GET ALL YOUR SOURCES AND I AM SURE THEY WILL GIVE ALL THE FACTS AND THE TRUTH.” THE TRUTH NEVER LIES”–SECOND THE COMMENT FROM NICKY GLASSES: NO AXE TO GRIND ONLY THE SIMPLE TRUTH.!!AND FURTHER MORE DON’T ASSUME I’M A WOMEN, COULD BE A MAN.

  37. Joe,
    You have said (written and published) that DiFronzo severs some of his murder victims’ penises. Now, how in the world can that claim be shown to _not_ be an untruth? How is that going to be substantiated in a libel suit? Please answer that question, specifically. And don’t say, “I will tell you how I will win the DiFronzo lawsuit for libel as soon as he loses it” because doing so really speaks to the fact that you don’t know what you are doing or saying.

    So you know, you’re a sitting duck, legally, if DiFronzo decides to take action.

    Dear banana,
    Nothing has changed. You are still a total moron. Your 1:46 p.m. comment speaks for itself.

  38. Dear Faux,

    DiFronzo bring on the libel suit! Sorry, Faux, I cannot go in to legal strategies on a matter that could be lodged against me. You will have to wait and see.

    The statute of limitations for libel, I believe, is one year. Therefore, DiFronzo has some time to file.

    A sitting duck – indeed. Just like the ducks that are shot to pieces, right.

    The only gangster in Chicago history (that I am aware of) that filed a lawsuit against someone in the scope of Outfit activities was the man that John DiFronzo took part in murdering, Sam Giancana. Could history repeat itself? Oops, there goes another count of libel (the Giancana murder assertion).

  39. Technically that’s incorrect. Louis Marino was involved in an interesting, if humorous, lawsuit, as well.

  40. Dear Joe,
    Do you know the reason mary ann is trying to destroy her ex-husband?is he remarried?

  41. Dear Visitor,
    Mary Ann claims she hates her ex-husband. However, several of us (that know her personally) believe she is in love with him and unable to accept that he is in a serious relationship with the love of his life, Debby (while Mary Ann remains without a significant other near her – I am not talking about a sex partner). Why else would someone as wealthy as Mary Ann be hung up on someone all these years? In my opinion, Mary Ann is vindictive enough to attack someone she is passionate about, like Jerry, if she cannot have him.

  42. For the love of…

    Would you mind correcting my last name on your interview thread. It’s S-a-v-a-r-d. You have S-e… Sheesh.

    Thanks.

  43. Joe,

    Are you aware of the information in Nick Calabrese’s FD-302’s concerning the murder of Sam Giancana?

  44. Man oh man, even Denis Savard got up on the wrong side of the bed today.

    Joe,

    In September 1986, Louis Marino sued the FBI for allegedly stealing his car while he left home for the 4th of July. Marino had left his Chrysler Fifth Avenue at his brother’s house in Cicero for the weekend, and the FBI was alleged to have stolen his car and replaced it with a different Chrysler Fifth Avenue. Marino returned earlier than expected and noticed the switch.

    The FBI returned the vehicle after Marino reported the theft to police in Cicero. Marino claimed that after the car was returned, he noticed holes in it, suggesting that either the FBI had planted and removed listening devices from the car, or that it had intended to place listening devices in the car.

    Also, did you see the previous question about Calabrese’s 302’s? The Giancana murder-info is pretty interesting. What makes you say the No Nose was involved? You could be correct, of course. But, that’s the first time I’ve heard that.

  45. dear Joe
    If the FBI was stupid enough to have f’d up their investigation of Marino, I can certainly see why you are skeptical of their effectiveness in bringing the mob to justice. i can see why you’d think they gave Di Fronzo a pass.

    i actually had heard that bit about Louis Marino’s lawsuit, but don’t know anything about what trattoria calls Nick’s 302’s. What are they and what do they say about Mooney’s murder?!

  46. joe posts a comment and inside of 15 min. some amateur mob watcher with no inside info corrects him. some people have a lot of time on their hands.

  47. Attention. I will not type in all capital letters anymore because I found out that it means I am shouting. Joe deleted my last post because of it, and I want everyone to read this. This is a teaser for my website, coming soon, which is called ‘the Capos of Chi-town and the changing of American Culture.’

    “The making of Sammy Carlisi” – 2010

    My relative was once a prominent worker in Chicago ristorantes (until about 7 years ago when he was fired from both of his jobs for making ‘unwanted advances’ toward some customers.)
    He has finally given me permission to publish his Nickname, so people like Joe Fosco will see that I have credibility. Everyone knew him back then—his nickname was “Tiddy” Genoa from Mount Prospect , Illinois . (I cannot publish his first name or last name.)
    Message; The information in brackets is information that will put your concerns to rest. Warning; there is violent behavior in this story.
    The year was 1990.
    Tiddy was asked to bartend Sam “Blackie” Carlisi’s making ceremony. Joe Ferriola was also being made. Swearing in the ‘Oath’ known as Omerta” was done by Anthony Francis Daddino, also known as “Jeep.” The Outfit bosses had a pronounced disagreement over this because Anthony Accardo did not want new made members, but Joey “the Dove” Aiuppa did want new made members. The two families almost went to war (running gun battles in the streets) until Joey “the Dove” Aiuppa won what was an especially convincing argument.
    The Outfit trusted Tiddy, but he refused their advances that he should join their organization. He knew the mob bosses would steal from his deep pockets. Out of an abiding respect, he bartended the making ceremony that was being held in Jeep’s basement in Rosemont IL because Jeep had a professional grade bar in his basement. In attendance were Carlisi, Ferriola, LaValli, Jeep, Tiddy (who is my relative), and Jeeps grandchildren who were small children and had no idea what was going on. In other words, it was safe especially since they stayed upstairs watching a children’s film. No one else showed up out of fear for the Rosemont Police Department.
    Jeeps had installed some subdued lighting to make it dim in his basement which closely resembled the ambiance of a ristorante. On the table were 3 swords, 3 guns, 3 holy funeral cards, and a smoldering fire in a large ashtray. Jeeps spoke in Italian and everyone understood what he was saying. Tiddy especially understood the gravity of the exact secret words being used. Jeeps spoke italian for about two and a half hours and then they took the ‘Oath” known as ‘Omerta.” Then they burned their hands in the smoldering fire and shook hands and celebrated.
    After one too many Canadian whiskeys, Jeep felt comfortable enough to fly into a rage on account of Anthony Accardo trashing him behind his back. He walked across the basement floor, picked up his Zenith, smashing it to pieces on the floor. Jeeps preceeded to stomp on it, meanwhile Ferriola (feeling like a coward) walked over to Jeeps’s old-fashioned radio and tried to pry it apart with his bare hands (trying to reveal his true manhood. Yeah right!). Jeeps objected because that was his own valued property.
    Jeeps was worried that news of his rage would get back to Anthony Accardo, so he rubbed his lucky rabbits foot that he kept on him at all times. It was from the old country (Italy), where it was known as “coniglio.” [Joe knows what this is.]
    Little did anyone know that Jeeps had been rubbing his lucky coniglio’s foot all day because he falsely thought the making cetemony was designed as a set-up for his own demise (a surprise mob hit). He had recently fallen out of token with Anthony Accardo, so he was worried that Carlisi, Ferriola, and LaValli were going to attack him with the ceremony’s props, which were actual weapons: 3 swords and 3 guns!
    [How did Tiddy know this last part about the rabbits foot, you might be in the process of ask yourself? Because Jeeps called Tiddy and confided in him the next day! They spoke in Italian. They both had a strong laugh about it. Jeeps even offered Tiddy double his salary, but Tiddy refused out of a sense of strong loyalty.]
    Tiddy collected his wages and his $1,000 a-piece-in-tips and got the livin hell out of there before he witnessed too much and before they flew into more rages. Titty knew that Ferriola and Jeeps (his friend) could treat him like the Zenith or the radio in the turn of a dime.
    Tiddy made approximately $4,500 that evening for his work as a bartender at Carlisi and Ferriola’s making ceremony.
    The Aftermath
    The Old World mafia don himself, Anthony “Jeeps” Daddino, died a few days before August 8, 2008–the anniversary of Jerry Garcia’s death. Daddino died of natural causes like all successful mobsters do. His feud with Anthony Accardo was taken to his grave.
    special thanks to Joe Fosco’s KTF Medida (“To Know is the Key”) and special thanks to my growing following.

    © 2010

  48. JoE

    I realized that I accidentally published my relative’s last name (Genoa). I was told not to do that. If there’s a way to delete just his last name (Genoa) please do that. Please, do NOT delete my article if you can help it.

    Also, I want to apologize for misspelling my relative’s name at one point. I wrote Titty in one place, but it should be Tiddy.

  49. ktf and Joe,

    i also just got an email from Tiddy who read it (my article). He denies that he was fired for making “unwanted advances” against ristorante patrons. He said to remind you that he has not been identified by the state of Ill. as a danger to women or children.

  50. Vin,

    I think I knew Tiddy Genoa. (I’m certain I knew a “Titty” from Mt. Prospect who was Italian-American. It was always my impression that people called him “Titty” to give him a hard time. It certainly wasn’t a term of endearment, that’s for sure. Sorry if you weren’t supposed to divulge his name. ) I didn’t know he was connected.

    Did he go to Prospect High School? How old is he?

  51. 302 groupies:

    The contents of Nick Calabrese’s 302’s are not a matter of public record and won’t be until his death. Dem’s da rulz according to FOIA.

    Due to public interest, the FBI released a few tidbits concerning Mooney’s murder to the press after the Family Secrets sentencing was over.

    These are the tidbits:
    Accardo ordered the murder (which everyone already knew)
    Frank Calabrese Sr. & Ronnie Jarrett furnished the silencer
    Angelo LaPietra ‘disposed’ of the gun & silencer (which were later found, I believe in the state of FL)

    Giancana’s murder is not yet considered “cleared.”

    Conventional wisdom credits Tony Spiltro with the murders, as he was a rising star in the Outfit at the time. And, as Mooney’s neighbor, had become good friends with him.

    An elderly, senile Butch Blasi (Mooney’s best friend) supposedly admitted to the murder before he died, too.

    John DiFronzo’s name has never been mentioned in connection with the Giancana’s killing. (In fact, I’m not totally sure No Nose wasn’t in prison at the time.) I’m not saying Joe is necessarily wrong or is lying, but Joe is involved in sticky situation with John DiFronzo and may have just said that to make trouble for No Nose.

  52. Dear Morey,
    I have not reviewed Nick’s 302’s. What I do know is that no one has been indicted for killing Giancana (regardless of what nick may have alleged).

  53. Dear Vin,
    You seem like a nice person. The last thing that I want to do is offend you. I understand that I lack a doctorate degree in Mobology, however, you must trust me – your information is bad, very bad. Your source should stick to bartending, especially if he claims he can make $4,500.00 in one night. I would be willing to bet that bartenders hired to work Oprah’s private parties do not make as much as Tiddy.

  54. Hey “Vin Marron”

    I’m just a fellow commenter and everything, but Joe is correct. Here’s just a few holes I’ve been able to find in Tiddy’s account. “LaValli” (should be spelled “LaValley”) wasn’t Italian, so he wouldn’t have been made nor would he attended the ceremony as a guest. Ferriola died in 1989, so he wasn’t even alive at the time of this story. Carlisi was a front boss in 1990, so he would have been made long, long beforehand.

    Also, Jeep Daddino was never in a position to be swearing people into the Outfit. Frank Schweiss was higher on the food chain than him, and Schweiss wasn’t even Italian. Chances are Jeep never even met Accardo, let alone had a feud with him.

    There’s a lot more discontinuities in your stories that aren’t worth exposing, but, yeah man, Joe’s correct, you need to get a new source before you publish this stuff for real. Sorry.

    Joe,

    Am I correct in saying that in the now famous hit squad debacle in Rosemont IL (in which Mario Rainone thought he was being set up), the actual target was Jeep Daddino?

    As I understand it, Carlisi gave the contract to Marcello who delegated it to Fratto and Messino. When Rainone showed up at Jeep’s residence, and Fratto and Messino were already there, he overreacted.

  55. Dear 302 man,
    I want to double check with my source before i respond to your question about the Rainone matter. I will get back to you.

  56. Dear 302 man,
    Two crews were working on the Mooney hit. Turk’s crew and Cerone’s crew. I believe that Butch was the actual triggerman, which is a popular theory. However, John DiFronzo was definitely involved in the conspiracy. A hit, especially one of such magnitude, consists of several people. Look at what we learned about the Spilotro hit – there was 15 or more people involved. Despite Mooney’s hit being less dirty, it still required more people than Butch. Johnny DiFronzo was Cerone’s top guy; therefore, DiFronzo was extremely instrumental in the hit. The CIA theories are nothing but propaganda. I wish to clarify that I have not concluded that DiFronzo was involved in the Mooney hit simply because he was Cerone’s top guy, my source confirmed DiFronzo’s participation.
    Please do not believe that I am making up lies about John DiFronzo because I have an ax to grind with him. I am a whistle blower. Most whistle blowers have axes to grind with the people they are blowing on. However, it does not change the fact the culprit committed an offense.

  57. Dear 302,

    It was explained to me by a reliable source that when the Outfit commissions a hit, a great deal of work has to be done. Especially on high profile hits, like Giancana. This work is spread out among several people. A couple of people case the subject for a while. They report to someone their findings. That someone confers with an advisor or two. They decide how to approach it. The people that did the casing are sometimes not the intended shooters. Now comes the shooter. Before you know it, they come up with a different strategy and call off the original one at the last minute. They regroup and delegate different people. At the time of the actual killing, many people are in place. Lookouts, distracters, get away drivers, etc.

    A hit is not decided the night before someone is murdered – perhaps in the old day but not in the last 30-years.

    I have to ask, is it hard to believe that DiFronzo was involved in the Giancana hit? He rose very quickly after the Giancana murder. Johnny was around since the 50’s, however, his reputation became known after Giancana was murdered. DiFronzo did not rise to his level by accident. This man made his bones. Many sadistic killers fear DiFronzo, why? Not because he is a sweetheart, but because he is among the most ruthless killers that have ever walked the streets of America.

    Can we prove DiFronzo participated in the Giancana hit, probably not. Can we prove that DiFronzo participated in the Spilotro hit, probably. The US Attorney could simply indict him tomorrow, walk Nick Calabrese back in the courtroom, and let the jury hear his testimony. Corroborated or not, the jury will find DiFronzo guilty.

  58. There is some truth in what Vin says to the extent that, yes, they do dim the lights during the making ceremony.

    But in Chicago (and maybe Joe Fosco can verify this), the Outfit stopped doing the old fashioned gun, dagger, and burning holy cards thing in the mid 1990’s.

    Let me describe the modern day Outfit making ceremony.

    First the candidates enter the room, which is dimly lit.

    Then, John Matassa, Mike Sarno, and Mickey Marcello go to the front of the room and perform the “Ave Maria” or “’O Sole Mio,” as a 3-piece a cappella singing group, with Johnny “No Nose” DiFronzo, as their conductor. All are dressed in tuxedos. No Nose, silver hair pomaded to the max, waves around that stupid little conductor’s stick.

    Whoever doesn’t laugh, gets made.

    No one has passed the muster since the Outfit instituted this new procedure. That is, everyone laughs. This has resulted in the dwindling number of “made” Outfit members.

  59. 10:38 AM

    I wish to correct something I said in the second paragraph of my 10:38 AM comment today.

    (Correction)

    A hit is not decided the night before someone is murdered – perhaps in the old day but not in the last 40-years (not 30-years, but 40-years).

  60. I wish to touch on my credibility again for a second. Take Carol Lavin Bernick for instance. Would this woman not have her lawyers breathing down my neck if my mention of her name in the article above was out of context? Be advised that I personally informed one of her lawyers about this article prior to publishing it. I have not heard back from them since.

  61. I reread the paragraph concerning Lavins name. Perhaps it is too benign of a comment to spark any real attention. Perhaps, if I had mentioned that Howard and Mary Ann were involved in a significant romance, which was “somehow” leaked to Carol therefore becoming a contributing factor in their reason for divorcing, Carol’s lawyers would have had more of a reason to address the article, especially if it were not true.

  62. Mary Ann told me herself that she leaked the affair to Carol out of spite. Mary Ann destroyed a marriage over one of her tantrums. She cited her only regret being that she will miss running in the circles with Howard’s jet setting friends, like Craig J. Duchossois of the Arlington Race Course family.

  63. Heh. Joe, I always knew that at the end of the day you’re a guy who has a good sense of humor.

  64. Joe fosco
    You have a troublemaker in your Rosemont thread who’s volunteering information about his private life. By the way, Des Plaines is more open to the mob than Rosemont, so I think your article is pretty much exactly right.

    ps, How come you don’t a site meter or visitor counter on this website?

  65. joe,
    maryann had an affair with yet another married man? Was her boyfriend Phil(who is now in jail) married? how about that Mike Posner that you mention what is his martial status?where are the kids in all this?do all these men come around the children? if so how sad.

  66. Dear joe
    The troublemaking braggart in the Rosemont thread is named ‘Murcialago.’ He has posted again and has figured out how to insert a hyperlink into his text. If you move the cursor over the word “man” {which is green and underlined} in his comment, a window pops with a homoerotic image of a man with a shaved chest with his shirt off. Thank you.

  67. joe
    Are you aware that there’s some maniac on the Rosemont thread who’s talking about the Vice Lords and confusing mystical stuff, like karma? Please sort him (“murcialago”) out.

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  69. STOP BEING A GOSSIP VISITOR

    – STOP TRYING TO STIR UP TROUBLE ON THE INTERNET. YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT DAMAGE YOU CAN DO. YOU ARE CRUEL, AND YOU ARE TRYING TO RUIN SOMEBODY’S LIFE AND SOMEBODY’S FAMILY!!! I BEG OF YOU!

    GET. A. LIFE.

  70. Dear Tourist,
    All I have done is write a true story about Mary Ann’s inappropriate behavior. If her behavior is ruining people’s lives, please try to reach her and convince her to change. Mary Ann is a bad person.
    I find it interesting how wealthy people have little trouble acquiring voluntary protectors.

  71. I WAS ADDRESSING “VISITOR” JOE!

    BUT SINCE YOU’RE GOING TO GO BUTTING IN, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT EVENTS TRANSPIRED THAT MADE YOU TO TURN ON MUNGO SO ABRUPTLY. ALSO, WHY DO YOU PICK ON KIM FRATTO WHEN YOU ONLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HER HUSBAND? WHY DO YOU CALL HER OBESE? I DON’T EXPECT YOU TO ANSWER SINCE YOUR PROBABLY TO BUSY CUDDLING WITH YOUR HANDSOME BUDDY “VIN” WHO YOU ARE PROBABLY BABBLING LIES TO EACHOTHER INTO EACH OTHER’S SWEET EARS!

  72. Dear Tourist,

    I do not see it as turning on Mary Ann. I see it as doing the right thing. She has gone too far with dragging her kids in to dangerous situations with guys like Fratto. In addition, Mary Ann has perpetuated a fraud that will be revealed here soon enough. I am sorry, I cannot comment further, for now.

    If I offended Kim Fratto regarding her weight, I wish to issue an apology. If it helps, I stand to lose about 20 lbs myself.

  73. Dear tourist,
    First of all i am not trying to ruin anyones life!!!!Maryann is the one doing that.maybe you need to address her as to why she feels the need to be involved in issues that don’t concern her, or why she plays the victim.also i DON’T GOSSIP–I WILL TELL YOU THE TRUTH!!!No need to gossip.and ruin someones life ask her how many lives or families she has ruined!!!!I have a life, and a happy one at that.

  74. dear joe
    is there a woman in dupage county who likes to play butt detective with the young italian men from melrose and elmwood park?

  75. Dear Curious,
    If you are referring to Mary Ann, I do not think she has conjoined with a large number of young men.

  76. dear joe
    i don’t understand your reply. what do you mean? if you’re talking about conjoined twins, i don’t see what that has to do with my question. no offense.

  77. thank you for the information about conjoining. but i’m afraid i we are still speaking 2 different languages. my question is specifically about playing butt detective with the young italian men from melrose and elmwood park. do you know if this butt detective thing is going on?

  78. it’s when the guys line up facing the wall and the “detective” has to guess which one … hold on, if you don’t know what i’m talking about then either you’re having some fun at my expense, or i have to rethink discussing this online.

  79. I see. Like I said, I do not think she has conjoined with a large number of young men – from Elmwood Park and Melrose Park.

  80. Dear Joe,

    Why is it that the most potentially interesting topics of conversation on your blog always end up being totally inconclusive. Like this one, for instance. You don’t know how badly I wanted to see this conversation go the distance.

    ‘Curious 7,” (If you’re out there) please, for the love of all that’s holy, elaborate as much as possible on this “butt detective” game you speak of.

  81. Joe,
    What is “Curious 7” talking about? What is butt detective referring to?And how do you know that Maryann doesn’t like young men from Melrose Park or Elmwood Park?From what i hear she doesn’t have too many morals.

  82. Visitor – i’m wondering the same thing. Mr. Fosco, what is this butt detective game you speak of?

  83. Forget About it! on

    Yo Joey,

    Having read a few of your tips on the Dr,and “No Nose” you area pretty close to some facts. Actually “One Ear Fratto” & Willie Messino were ordered to whack Mario Rainone, but Mario made them and ran to the FBI. I’m sure you recall that? There is is book out about the Chicago Outfit called “Pay, Quit, or Die”
    which is really accurate by a cop that busted a lot of these goomba’s. Check it out. Bye, Bye!

  84. Dear Forget,
    One Ear Fratto is not the Fratto accused of conspiring with Messino against Rainone. However, you were pretty close to the facts.
    Bye

  85. This afternoon, I witnessed Rudy Fratto’s four children, his supposed semi-crippled wife and him plead with the judge for leniency. I feel sorry for the family. According to them Rudy is a good dad. The defense was seeking home confinement. However, the judge was not moved by the family’s words (I was wrong about my earlier prediction). Therefore, Rudy Fratto, Jr, was sentenced to 1 year and 1 day to the United States Bureau of Prisons. Rudy’s turn in date is April 28, 2010. However, Rudy’s attorney, Art Nasser hinted that more time would be requested later. I plan to write an article on this matter this evening. It will include the threats that were made to me today by Fratto.

  86. Hey are you going to comment on this butt detective thing, as far as how one goes about “playing” it, or what?

  87. Correction: One of Rudy’s children did not speak today (his oldest daughter). Three of his children and his wife spoke. I am sorry.

  88. What is butt detective? and did you see maryann there today? and yes it has to be very sad for the children, as we all know our children sometimes suffer because of our thoughtless actions.

  89. It appears as if our fearless hero thinks he can mention something like “butt detective” and get away without explaining what it is. This is immature, unprofessional conduct.

  90. Are we ever going to know what the butt detective is????You have been keeping us hanging now for a while.Just give us your opinion what it is.Do you know my brother Art fay?

  91. Just Wondering on

    Joe,
    It has been a few weeks and yet no response to the question of butt detective…Do you just not know? Or would you rather not answer?Doesn’t seem like you to not answer the question.

  92. i personally believe that many of the people who have commented on this should stop getting in people’s business. I also find it very inappropriate that the people commenting are also write things that are personal and should not be on the internet.

  93. Dear Human,

    In my opinion, Mary Ann has caused herself to receive the attention she is receiving here.

  94. even if she did that doesn’t mean everyone who looks at this page needs to know about her personal life

  95. Dear Human,

    When the media focuses on someone’s inappropriate conduct, it is equivalent to bad luck for the target. If the target changes his or her behavior, the targets luck changes as well – my advice to Mary Ann.

    Look at every celebrity that has been reported on with respect to his or her personal lives. If Mary Ann feels that she is better than the others are and therefore undeserving of media attention on her private life, then Mary Ann is proving that she is a spoiled brat that wants to have it her way all the time, in my opinion.

  96. i have been informed that my former pal and miserable excuse for a blood relative named vin “marron” has been talking some trash about me on your site and saying that i am illiterate. oh yes, and i have also read where he said that he kicked my ass and even claimed that he broke down my bedroom door. everyone, please understand that vin is a fat virgin who thinks writing about the Chicago Outfit is going to get him his very first girlfriend (HAHAHAHAHA!) Vin called me “illiterate” because technically i never finished HS but i did get my GED. so, i know how to spell, thank you very much, Vin (you bonehead). Vin you are such a FAT LIAR. i saw that you emailed joe and said that I smell like a body odor. VIN YOU HAVE BODY ODOR, YOU SMELLY mother f—er! (excuse my bad language). vin “marron” (the guy with the HUGE FAT BUTT) embellished my stories quite a bit. i think he did this to make me look like a lying sh-t for brains. on the contrary–VIN is the LYING S.F.B! all i ever said was that i waited and bartended for some mob guys before, which was bound to happen while i was a bartender and waiter in des plaines and melrose park. by the way, vin’s “jeep” daddino story is completely of his own imagination, as far as i can tell.

    BY THE WAY, VIN (this is directed toward vin only):

    YOU ARE NOT GETTING INVITED TO OUR MEMORIAL DAY PARTY THIS YEAR, SO I HOPE YOU ARE PREPARED TO LOOK AT PORN ON YOUR ANCIENT P.O.S. COMPUTER ALL DAY, MR. BIG-BOY FAT ASS! —

    VIN YOU OWE MY MOTHER APPROX. 750 DOLLARS FOR THROWING YOUR FAT ASS THRU MY BEDROOM DOOR AND ALSO TO REPAIR THE DOOR JAMBS, YOU BIG-BOY FAT ASS. (‘big-boy fat ass’ is Vin’s dad’s name for him when he loses his temper! HAHA)

    A COUPLE A FUN FACTS ABOUT VIN “MARRON”
    1 – vin pulls down his pants AND his underwear every time he stands to pee at a toilet or a urinal – just like a small kid. VIN EVEN DOES THIS IN PUBLIC REST ROOMS. (if you do not believe this last part, go to OTB in Oakbrook on friday nights and wait for the drunken fat ass with the gay mustache to waddle into the restroom. i’m warning you–YOU’LL BE IN FOR A SIGHT!)
    2 – vin “marron” disgraced his/my entire family and an entire churchful of people when he did a rancid “SHART” (crapped his shorts) at the jubilee mass for the pastor of SAINT DOMITILLA CATHOLIC CHURCH IN HILLSIDE ROUGHLY TWO YEARS AGO. even a nearby usher’s face turned bright red from embarrassment. keep in mind that vin has been a grown man for a VERY long time. he’s old enough to know when he needs to SPRINT to the bathroom
    3 – FINALLY — vin spells his last name on here “marron” becaus he thinks he is being mysterious, but it is really “”M – A – R – O – N – E”” (rhymes with “cerone”)

    Vin, now we’re even, you stinky S.O.B. i KNOW you are reading this, you jobless sh-t!

    (PLEASE DO NOT DELETE THIS – YOU ALLOWED VIN TO ATTACK ME ON HERE SO I AM RETURNING THE FAVOR. I HAVE NOT SPELLED OUT ANY SWEARS OTHER THAN “ASS” — by the way – i saved this on a jump drive!)

  97. Dear Tiddy,

    Whether your last comment is real, fake, true, false, correct or incorrect, I appreciated the comic relief it caused me to experience. I will not delete it because you were appropriate with your language, as I do not appreciate vulgar words on my threads. However, please be advised, I am not going to remove anything Mr. Marone responds with, unless it contains vulgar words.

    Thanks

  98. i’m not sure which is more interesting: the uncertainty surrounding “butt detective” or the vin vs. tiddy saga. i’d have to guess that it isn’t fake because of the amount of anger that comes across in their comments, as well as the amount of detail.

  99. Just Wondering on

    Ok, so someone is venting about their relative, what about the info on the “butt detective” thing? Are we ever going to know the meaning of that? And human being stating about airing personal business on this site about Maryann, maybe he/she should ask Maryann why she gets involved into other peoples business and lives?Seems like she has no life only interested in stalking her ex-husband.Why else would you try to destroy people?When are we going to know the truth on the Bernick story?

  100. AGAINST VISITOR on

    DEAR SO-CALLED “VISITOR”

    YOU ARE LIKE A DERANGED PEEPING TOM, MADAM!!! WHY DON’T YOU MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS, MADAM!

    THIS IS NOT A PORN OR GOSSIP SITE, YOU LITTLE GOSSIP!

    MIND YOUR OWN AFFAIRS, YOU SNEAK.

    YOU HAVE YOUR OWN DIRTY LAUNDRY!

    GO AWAY!!!

  101. AGAINST VISITOR on

    JOE PLEASE PUBLISH AN ARTICLE AGAINST “VISITOR” WHO IS BEING A REAL SNEAKY JACKASS AND WHO KEEPS COMING BACK HERE TO SPY ON EVERYTHING. I WAS READING ALL THE COMMENTS GOING ALL THE WAY BACK AND “VISITOR KEEPS POPPING HER FAT HEAD IN HERE TRYING TO FIND INFORMATION ABOUT GOSSIP.

    PLEASE PUBLISH AN ARTICLE RIPPING HER (I’M TALKING ABOUT “VISITOR”) !!!!!!

  102. Dear Against,

    I do not use my pulpit to attack people, contrary to what some believe, I simply report the truth as it applies to evil doers in our society and some of the people that play along with them.

  103. Joe,

    What’s with the dorky ass Lord of the Rings thing I just read? There is a Lord of the RIngs comment, and a 2010 Space Oddysse comment. What the hell? Joe, this isn’t the kind of readership you should be going for. (Nerds are interested in the mob now because there are mafia VIDEO GAMES, and as we know, nerds like video games.)

  104. This is for AGAINST VISITOR, first of all a sneak,peeping tom, you obviously have me mistaken for someone else.As far as dirty laundry.. WRONG!!! Maybe you should go talk to your friend Maryann she has the dirty laundry.Also I don’t need to gossip, the truth is the truth here.Get your facts straight before you go accusing someone of gossip or anything else.!!!Soon Joe will publish the truth for everyone to see….

  105. Does anyone know if it is true that Mary Ann paid Patty, Lee’s mom, to go around with her recently to a number of dining establishments to help Mary Ann discredit the assertions that Mary Ann had an affair with Lee?

  106. Are you talking about lee magnafichi?

    trust joe, i fhe was alive lee would not tolerate assertions about him playing around. he’d probably just started putting the fear of god into everybody.

  107. Just Wondering on

    Wow, is that interesting…Why would Patty take money from Maryann?And how would people from “dining establishments”
    know about Maryann’s business? And did she have sex with her god child? THAT IS PRETTY SICK!!!!!

  108. “Pretty sick,” at worst, but definitely not illegal. A person can’t help who his god parents are. And, as Mignon McLaughlin said – “we choose those we like; with those we love, we have no say in the matter. ” Or, perhaps even more appropriately is Umberto Giordano’s saying – “love forbids us not to love.”

    Do you see? Haven’t you ever been in love before?

    Madam, I leave you with this, th all-time greatest, most sublime commentary on the nature of May-December romance:

    That time of year thou mayst in me behold
    When yellow leaves, or none, or few, do hang
    Upon those boughs which shake against the cold,
    Bare ruin’d choirs, where late the sweet birds sang.
    In me thou seest the twilight of such day
    As after sunset fadeth in the west,
    Which by and by black night doth take away,
    Death’s second self, that seals up all in rest.
    In me thou see’st the glowing of such fire
    That on the ashes of his youth doth lie,
    As the death-bed whereon it must expire
    Consumed with that which it was nourish’d by.
    This thou perceivest, which makes thy love more strong,
    To love that well which thou must leave ere long.

    PS – “Words have the power to both destroy and heal. When words are both true and kind, they can change our world.”

  109. Just Wondering on

    Uh “dandy”– tolerant of true love, you too must be sick.!! go fall in love with a person your own age for gods sake, not a 20 something when your 48-50.And your god child!And yes words can both destroy and heal….

  110. “To be able to move on, one has to learn to forgive not only the person, or people, who have done one wrong but also oneself .”

    I forgive you, Just Wondering.

    Now it is your turn. Forgive others, and then you can forgive yourself.

  111. Just Wondering on

    Thanks for your words of advice but i don’t need forgiveness and i have no reason to have “to move on”.Give your words of advice to maryann she could use it for what this blog is all about her.. no one is writing about my boring life, no reason to, i don’t screw people over nor do i stalk anyone.

  112. Just Wondering,

    This quote is directed at you. Please do not take offense; instead, learn from it. Look deep into the wilderness of your own mind, and meditate on it:

    “Self denial is not a virtue.”

    Do you see, madam? Do you see the point?

    Please, forgive yourself and move on. There is a bright future in store for all of us.

  113. Dear Just Wondering,

    “Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath” (Ephesians 4:26)

    Please take some time this evening to reflect on your own bewilderment in this life, and quietly take a personal inventory of your own private sexual aberrations (which you surely have). Deal with these first before you are taken in by the gossip of Heather.

    Please do NEVER forget to celebrate True Love, for who has not loved with a love that was more than love?

    Most of all, I want you to know that I forgive you, madam.

    Please love everyone.

  114. Thanks dandy for your words of advice, but i am not in self denial.no need for me to forgive myself , i have done nothing wrong. Please go advise maryann mungo she needs to forgive and to apologize to her children and everyone else she has hurt and tried to destroy.that woman is in self denial and is on a path of destruction.

  115. Dandy,
    Don’t preach to me about love you haven’t a clue about my life.Also quit calling me madam and no need to gossip about maryann she puts her life out there for everyone to see.and you don’t need to forgive me who do you think you are jesus?also sexual aberrations again you know nothing about me!!

  116. Dear Seeker,

    I have no idea if Mary Ann and Rudy are still friendly. I know she despises them, meaning Kim Fratto as well. Between the robbery via Blue Skies Travel of a 10-thousand dollar vacation, paid by Mary Ann, coupled with the fact that Kim used to teach Mary Ann’s children how to sneak in to the movie theater with her kids without paying for admission, I think Mary Ann will not rekindle the relationship. However, since this article was published, I could see Mary Ann attempting to clear the air with the Fratto’s and deny that my assertions are true, regarding her feelings about Rudy. Mary Ann is very good about disliking most people, however, only if it could remain a secret.

  117. Oop’s, I forgot to answer your last question. Michael Magnafichi, relating to the check cashing business the FBI was asking her about last summer, introduced Mary Ann to Rudy.

  118. Joe,

    Can you delete that that list of Outfit “operatives” that was posted on the Magnafichi thread? I ask for 2 reasons.

    1st, because its freezing my internet browser, and that of my friend who reads this blog

    2nd, because someone posted a link to that same list a long time ago. It would be far more considerate if “cologero” had just provided you with the link.

  119. Sorry to post that remark on this thread, but I can’t even access the Magnafichi thread because it freezes my browser immediately. (It have a fast computer, so it’s either “slow script” caused by the inconsiderate length of that post; OR I’ve gotten a virus from this website).

  120. Dear Chuckles,

    I apologize for the inconvenience. It freezes my browser as well. Until you notified me, I was unsure about the cause of my problem. I will start deleting any large comments automatically – in the future.
    Unfortunately, I we will have to wait a little bit for the deletion to occur. My tech support agent attends to the site maintenance issues. All I know how to do is turn on a computer and type. I emailed the tech support agent a few minutes ago. I suspect he will address the issue sometime this morning. Again, I am very sorry about this. Thank you for visiting KTF.

  121. No chance of a virus… I believe it is the long message. It will be removed soon. Again, thank you.

  122. I read a lot but don’t usually comment, and that’s the first time I’ve had that browser-freezing problem. The longer multi paragraph remarks are interesting a lot of times. But that’s the longest post I’ve ever seen by far.

    If you’re interested in responding to Cologero’s question, you might want to copy + paste the list of names to a Word or Excel document and then put up a link to it on the thread like you did yesterday for that photo of the mob guys. (If you don’t know how to do that with something that isn’t a photo or PDF file, you can use Google Documents, which is easy and free.)

    Or, you could just respond with a list of names that “Cologero” would find interesting.

    Thank you.

  123. Joe,
    what do you mean that maryann is good at disliking people but only if it remains a secret? please elaborate.Or better yet give some examples.

  124. “JUST WONDERING” – YOU ARE A GOSSIP!

    A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THIS WEBSITE CHATTER ABOUT GANGSTERS WHO ARE GENERALLY MURDERERS AND CONVICTED CRIMINALS–IN OTHER WORDS, PEOPLE WHO HAVE EARNED THE WRATH OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC. WHATEVER SOMEONE’S OPINION IS OF MARY ANN MUNGO, SHE IS NOT A CONVICTED CRIMINAL, SO QUIT PRODDING AND GET ON WITH YOUR LIFE! NO NON-CRIMINAL DESERVES THIS KIND TREATMENT ON INTERNET THREADS.

    WHY DON’T YOU USE YOUR REAL NAME, HUH? (THAT’S WHAT I THOUGHT!)

    YOU ARE CREEPING AROUND THIS THREAD LIKE SOME KIND OF IMMATURE PERV WHO CAN TAKE ANY TIDBIT OF INFORMATION AND SOMEHOW MAKE IT ABOUT DEVIANT SEXUAL ACTIVITY OR OTHER REPREHENSIBLE BEHAVIOR.

    GET ON WITH YOUR LIFE, OR START YOUR OWN MARY ANN MUNGO GOSSIP BLOG.

  125. Dear Peter,

    Mary Ann is a criminal – she conspired in a supervisory role by exploiting my assistant and causing a violation of the eavesdropping laws regarding listening in on phone calls. She is not a convicted criminal but that does not change the fact that she is a criminal. If she disagrees with my opinion, she can easily take me to court – she has the means. In addition, some things that she has done to her ex-husband are criminal. The truth is about to come out very soon. Mary Ann is fortunate to be in a position to rely on lawyers for help. It will be interesting to see what happens.

  126. Dear readers,

    I would like to point out that Joseph Fosco, the author of this article, was not the one who broached the subject of “butt detective.” Go back and read the thread. It was a pseudonymous reader dubbed “curious 7” who brought it to the table but then balked at demystifying it for us. For this lack of explanation, we all owe “curious 7” a collective debt of gratitude. Believe me.

    Joe,

    I want to inform you that on February 5th, at approximately 3:10 a.m., I overcame what turned out to be a severe (albeit temporary) spell of Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, stemming from some denunciatory, extremely sexually perverse remarks made to me by the “woman” who answers the telephones at the Abominable Doktor’s Clinic. (I believe you and some of your readers are well-aware of the details of this conversation, as it was the centerpiece of some enthusiastic joking some weeks back.) My recovery could not have come at a better time, as I was two days away from a consultation with a psychologist from whom I was seeking cognitive-behavioral therapy in order to deal with my debilitating situation.

    I thought I was “on the mend”, as they say, until two nights ago, when I made the unfortunate decision to proceed with researching this “butt detective.” Joe, I would like to take this opportunity to caution you and your readers to avoid, at any and all costs, inquiring into “butt detective.” Especially avoid going to Google.com, entering “butt detective” (in quotation marks) into the search field, and selecting “images” as your search parameter.

    Readers, you have no understanding as to the potential depths of human depravity until you cast your eyes on one of the images I had the misfortune of allowing into my field of vision. I will do you all a public service and avoid going into further detail, or providing the specific URL through which you would be able to access this shocking and unnatural image.

    I implore you all: let us PLEASE drop this accursed subject. Remember that curiosity killed the cat. Be advised that I am now staring down the barrel of 65-dollar invoice for mental health-related expenses, compliments of my own burning curiosity.

  127. Dear Morey,

    Once again, thank you for your much-appreciated perspective. I will refrain from satisfying my curiosity about butt detective. I am sorry about your misfortune; I will keep you in my prayers. In addition, I look forward to the next time we can hear from you.

  128. Just Wondering on

    Peter, i could care less who maryann screws… the point here is she is in everyones business.. leave the ex alone, he’s not going back to her for god’s sake its been 12 years now. Jerry is happy with Debbie.And no need to gossip the truth is the truth….

  129. geez, morey.

    so you image’d ‘butt detective’, came across what sounds like a pornographic image, and were taken by surprise by it??? how old are you, and what planet do you live on? you are very naive, my friend. extremely naive.

    look, you seem like a smart guy completely lacking in foresight or something. what did you think you were going to find on the internet with the word ‘butt’ in your search? dude, you also seem to lack thick skin, especially if you developed p.t.s.d!?!! are you sure you’re not being overly dramatic?

  130. Joe,
    I am a personal friend of Jerry’s and a mutual friend of ours John A was once engaged to Maryann. Wasn’t she married once before? He often tells me how blessed he is that he never married her!!From what he has told me she has always been evil and vindictive.I know first hand the sadness and pain Jerry is going through by not seeing his children.Isn’t it a crime and illegal to keep a parent from their children??…Jerry is a great father and a good friend!!

  131. Tom Llewellyn from Will Cty on

    Dear bobby,

    The most disgusting thing a person can imagine is the inside of a camel’s mouth–especially while eating. The second most disgusting thing a person can imagine is online trash talk.

  132. Dear “Just Wondering” “Mary Fay” “Tiddy G” “Heather” “Bobby” and “Visitor”

    I strikes me as very obvious that your main objection to Mary Ann is that you are jealous of courtly love and the chivalry she is subject to by her young (of-age) lover.

    The only sensible commenters on this thread are myself (obviously), Joe Fosco, Morey, Paul, and AGAINST VISITOR. Learn from us. Did you not read Morey’s comments? The allegations of anal inspector do not come from Joe, but from some unknown troublemaker. I now will reveal that YOU all are troublemakers. But I forgive you all.

    I forgive you, “Just Wondering”
    I forgive you, “Mary Fay”
    I forgive you, “Tiddy G”
    I forgive you, “Heather”
    I forgive you, “Visitor”

    We must forgive each other and hope that one day we experience True Love, as our sister Mary Ann has. Please let us recognize that the most egregious sin on the entire internet is your indictment of True Love.

    Let us not forget that: “To forgive is to set a prisoner free and discover that the prisoner was you.”

    Peace be with you all. And also with me, thank you very much.

    I forgive you all.

  133. Dear “Just Wondering” “Mary Fay” “Tiddy G” “Heather” “Bobby” and “Visitor”

    For your information, you are all quite frankly starting to really piss me off, thank you very much.

    But I forgive you not seven times but seventy times seven! There shall be no end to my forgiveness, even though you are all really pissing me off.

    I agree with “Tom.”

    PS: “Tiddy G” your language is entirely unacceptable, and I hope Joe removes your comments!

  134. Dear Bobby,

    Yes, Mary Ann was married two times as far as I know.

    It is illegal to keep a father from seeing his kids; however, Mary Ann appears to be doing it in a clever way, staying under the radar.

    In my opinion, Mary Ann controls her children with monetary things, in addition to her sly ability to manipulate circumstances to her benefit. The poor kids are too young and naive to understand. All they see is mommy swiping her credit card buying nice things all the time. And, the kids know that daddy is struggling in court, not able to keep up with payments. Mary Ann has done some awful things that will come out in my next article.

  135. Wowwee! Sixty-five whole dollar, Morey? You think you’ll be able to swing it? Staring down the barrel, indeed!

  136. Allow me to make the following suggestion:

    Joe, please post a picture of Mary Ann, as you did on the blog about your pal.

    Despite all the disparaging remarks on this thread about Mary Ann’s looks and moral compass, I’ve heard she isn’t bad looking, and that she has a pretty face and perky you-know-what’s. Admittedly, these are two traits in women that I find particularly appealing. Moreover, these are, in fact, two prerequisites that prospective “dates” must meet before I will consider taking them out on the town.

    I am not embarrassed by my remarks.

    Most of the people who read this blog would appreciate the opportunity to put a face with a name. A photo would help with this.

  137. Dear Barnyard,

    I will locate a photo of Mary Ann for you, however, not now, unfortunately. Sorry.

  138. Hey joe,
    Whats up with this “dandy” person? He/She thinks they are a preacher, give me a break…I don’t need his forgiveness and dont preach how its ok to have affairs with younger men. Its ok, but with your godchild?????I will ask Jerry for a pic of Maryann, if he has one.Maybe she will attract another inmate, since that is her track record.A pen pal to a prison….Wonder what Phil would think about all this, is he still married?????

  139. Hey bobby,
    also, Whats up with this “Tom Llewelyn” person? (10:28 p.m. comment from yesterday.) His comment is very off-beat. is this a name anyone recognizes?

  140. Joe,

    Do you think the “Michael G. Magnafichi” thread will overtake this thread in reader participation? There sure is a lot of interest in Michael G. Magnafichi lately. Do you agree? I hope Michael is aware of it!

    There’s a ton of bickering on this TEC thread lately, but I enjoy it. Maybe post another image.

  141. Angie S, i could care less what Tom has to say or anyone else.I was just commenting on my friend Jerry and Johnny thats all.

  142. For crying out loud, bobby, you don’t have to be such prick about it!

    Thanks a lot for being a jerk to me this morning. I was on your side, but you’ve lost my support. Congratulations on acting like an old-time son-of-a-B—-!

    I hope “dandy” preaches you into a corner.

  143. Tom Llewellyn from Will Cty said this

    ___
    “The most disgusting thing a person can imagine is the inside of a camel’s mouth–especially while eating. The second most disgusting thing a person can imagine is online trash talk.”

    He should have added the your attitude is disgusting, bobby!

    And you are a major and obvious liar booby! You care about more than just Johnny and Jerry–you just showed a strong interest in dandy! I was partially addressing that! (Maniac!)

  144. Your remark really burned my ass bobby. You just lost a supporter and Joe just lost a reader thanks to you. I need to move on with my life. Good luck, lunatic.

  145. angie, you must have pms issues, not being a jerk i just dont give a shit what that tom or anyone else thinks or says.Too bad you think i was attacking you..just the opposite. Oh well my friend is getting screwwd over thats all!!!!I’m not looking to fight with anyone i was just stating some facts thats all.have a good day angie

  146. (*laughing HARD*)

    Readers, sincerest thanks for the madcap laughter you inspired in me this afternoon.

    KTF Media Grp. is by FAR my favorite website because the articles are very good, there is a range of questions, which are (usually) pretty good, and last (but certainly not least) the banter on this thread never fails to entertain. Hehehe.

    Where do I begin? butt detective? Visitor? AGAINST VISITOR? “tiddy g.”? “Dandy”? Just Wondering? Or newcomers, Morey and Angie S? I hope you all realize that only about five people in the world have an idea of what you’re talking about. I certainly don’t.

    C’mon, folks. Really? I realize we’re dealing with personal issues, but grow up, already.

    Joe, can I ask how many times per day this blog makes you laugh? Seriously. I am not giving you a hard time; I really do love this website. Seriously, you have to get at least one good laugh out of this per day.

  147. Dear Kimberly,

    This thread in particular is raunchy. It might have to do with the fact there is a Melrose Park, Illinois, connection (which is where Mary Ann is originally from).

  148. Joe,
    It dawned on me that “Barnyard” is implying that he wants you to post a nudie, or a partial nude (topless or bottomless) image. I know that I don’t need to tell you this, but I want to let everyone else here know that I don’t want to see such an image. (Joe will tell you that this is already very clear.)

    Joe, taht being said: please post a REGULAR PHOTOGRAPH (appropriate) for the benefit of your mob readers who are unaware of what your subject lloks like.

    Joe, in parting, allow me to float this theory:
    “bobby” = Jerry or Johnny or maybe even Michael Magnafichi

  149. Johnny A., I mean, of course.

    Also, could “bobby” possibly be Joe DiFronzo? ASs the youngest Difronzo, I’m sure he knows how to use the computer. I think it might be Joe D.

  150. Read between the lines, bobby.

    Joe was referring to your use of profane language as “raunchy.” No one else’s. bobby, you are definitely from Melrose Park. Joe didn’t lose a reader–you lost a supporter! Why did you decide to turn against your own support network, man? We were all here for you until you threw some of us out of Eden, if you catch my drift. (I’m not preaching. It’s just a figure of speech.) bobby, I hope you will come to your senses and invite us back into your “inner circle.” Otherwise you are being an elitist.

    If Joe laughs at anyone’s remarks, I hope it is your vitriol!

  151. No way was I implying that I want to see a pornographic image. I’m sorry I mentioned anything about a pretty face or anything else. Don’t put words in my mouth, please!

    I keep checking back here hoping that Joe or someone will provide a link to a photo of Mary Ann. Anyone?

  152. Daer B.Y.,

    I will hopfully have something up tonight, regarding an image of Mary Ann. It might be a video that I will have to rely on Youtube to host (I said might).

  153. Hey bobby and Just Wondering:

    “Can you see Mike Leddo
    In the rearview mirror?
    My hairy ass
    Pouncing the ho.

    chuggalugga
    chuggalugga
    chuggalugga
    chuggalugga”

    * * *
    RING A BELL? You know, you are as unbelievable now as you were back then.

    Dear Joe, please do not delete or be offended by the doggerel verse I just typed. If “Just Wondering” is who I think it is, then they wrote the above little jingle about me on a tavern wall a long time ago. (This happened in Melrose Park, and it was a few years before the word ‘ho’ became “fashionable.) I won’t get into the circumstances, but it ruined my life for about 3 years.

    PS – Please don’t demand an explanation. We don’t need take a lengthy trip down that particular memory lane, do we?

    PSPS – That’s right guys! In a manner of speaking, I’m back from the dead. I’m living proof that people can bounce back from public humiliation and character assassination. If you are regularly commenting on Fosco’s site, you definitely have not heard the last from me! You can count on it!

  154. 1. No rush, but are we, “the uninitiated”, getting our pic and/or video tonight?

    2. What the HELL is up with Mr. Leddo’s comment???

  155. Dear Father, hear and bless
    Thy beasts and singing birds
    And guard with tenderness
    Small things that have no words

    Lord above,
    Protect True Love
    against internet witches
    and sons of bitches

  156. m.leddo,First of all i don’t know anything about your hairy ass or about any ho.Second i’m not from town as the melrose guys would say, where im from we say how ya doing.Angie do you feel better tonite?And Joe should i ask John A if has any engagement pictures of maryann(aka marty feldman)?Whats the big deal , why does everyone want to know what she looks like?from what i hear she looks tore up from the floor up!
    Good Nite

  157. Dear Just Wondering and bobby and Joe,

    In case you have not taken notice, it’s you’re time to shine on Joe’s new blog. Quit pouting in here like a little baby and address insults by Froggy who said Jerry looks like a drunk. Can you believe that? I for one am not going to stand for that. They even did a photo of Jerry. bobby, I want to be back on your side. Unless you’re going to keep being a little sh*t!

  158. Hey Bobby,

    All our attempts to get back into your “inner circle” seem to have failed ever since you were scolded by Joe for use of profanity. I’m sure you’re in here pouting.

    “Good”, is all I have to say ever since you casted us out of Eden, man. What’s the deal with that? You are a such a poser Bobby.

    And who is Mr. Leddo and his hairy ass? Only you could know such a thing! HA!

    You have many secrets Bobby. Too many to guess, I’m sure. You have a secret life, I’m guessing, which is why you are POUTING in here. Did you read what Tom Llewellyn wrote?

    You got your credibility destroyed on here, Bobby. And Debbie even said that you are a Jerry Navarro want-to-be, but you can never be Jerry because Jerry doesn’t say swears like you do. You say “sh*t” and so many variations of the f-word that it is frankly SICK.

    Bobby, why would we want to know what you know about jerry? Especially since you cast us out of Eden, man? We want in, but you want us out.

    You can be a major SHIT, Bobby. Which is shy you lost support.

    YOU ARE A JOKE, MEANWHILE, JOE, DEBBIE, AND JERRY ARE THE REAL. DEAL.

    Dear Bobby, please tell us.

    (Yeah, right. We’ll never get the truth!)

    There is much confusion…over YOU, my friend.

    God bless Mr. Navarro and his kids, you BOBBY!

  159. Dick Jingledonkey on

    Dear Bobby & Joe,

    The cops couldn’t keep me down, and the court system couldn’t keep me down. So, I’m back, baby! THE BOYS ARE BACK!

    So, when do you want meet up for a beer? We’ll see where the evening takes us.

    You gotta stop wasting your time with this clickety-click keyboard computer “inter-net” crap, and hook up with me, guys.

    THE BOYS ARE BACK!

    Your pal,

    Dick Jingledonkey

    PS—Remember before I went away when we are on the patio, and I was throwing my game at those three broads, and Tony squeezed the hell out of my ass cheek, making us look like a couple of homos? I can’t wait to see that bastard, so I can return the favor! God love him. But he broke the skin, that MOTHER!